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    Re: Students in West Virginia School forced to stand for Black National Anthem

    I guess I never considered it a compelled speech issue because I've never considered attendance in the welfare schools to be compulsory-- if parents don't want their children saying the Pledge of Allegiance, there's always private school.

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    Re: Students in West Virginia School forced to stand for Black National Anthem

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    I'm not a fan of indoctrinating kids.
    That's what the schools are for. If you think they're all about reading, writing, and arithmetic, you're fooling yourself.

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    Re: Students in West Virginia School forced to stand for Black National Anthem

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    I guess I never considered it a compelled speech issue because I've never considered attendance in the welfare schools to be compulsory-- if parents don't want their children saying the Pledge of Allegiance, there's always private school.
    I agree.... and if you don't like 'MURICA, there's always Mexico. I mean, there's always another option. However, as it stands, it seems like a pretty big violation of a person's right to free will to simply say that they can't go to a public school because they refuse to say a few words.
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    Re: Students in West Virginia School forced to stand for Black National Anthem

    Can anybody explain how these kids were forced to stand for this 'Black National Anthem' I've never heard of? Maybe they were punished if they didn't stand? Anything? Oh hey!

    Capital High principal says no one forced to recite Pledge* - Kanawha County - Charleston Daily Mail - West Virginia News and Sports -

    No one has been punished for not participating, and school policy states students do not have to participate, Giles said. He's not sure where that idea came from.
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    Re: Students in West Virginia School forced to stand for Black National Anthem

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    That's what the schools are for. If you think they're all about reading, writing, and arithmetic, you're fooling yourself.
    Some schools are better than others and it is a parent's duty to keep that kind of crap in check.

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    Re: Students in West Virginia School forced to stand for Black National Anthem

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Wow... Just... Wow... In West Virginia of all places.. That is literally the last place I would expect that to happen. I'm against the playing of all pledges and anthems in schools, but playing a black anthem without playing the white and brown anthems is disturbingly racist.

    Funny story, I was suspended back in highschool for not standing for the Texas pledge. Apparently they didn't have such a rule.
    Texas pledge? I was in East Texas from 1947 to 1964, and don't remember any pledge...
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    Re: Students in West Virginia School forced to stand for Black National Anthem

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    The song's message can really be applied to anybody who's seeking the strength to carry on.



    I have no problem with playing the song because of it's more generic message...but the song does mention God...not that I personally give even one single **** about the mention of God in schools, but I'm pretty sure the mention of him in this song would likely create controversy outside of the "racism" nonsense.
    God damn that's a long ass song. Ain't nobody got time for that.
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    Re: Students in West Virginia School forced to stand for Black National Anthem

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Texas pledge? I was in East Texas from 1947 to 1964, and don't remember any pledge...
    *shrugs* in the early 2000's when I was in high school ours had one.
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    Re: Students in West Virginia School forced to stand for Black National Anthem

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Texas pledge? I was in East Texas from 1947 to 1964, and don't remember any pledge...
    I am having some difficulty pinning down the date but it looks like it actually became mandatory within the past decade or so. Prior to that it varied from district to district. I graduated in '93 and we weren't doing it.

    From the Texas education code:

    25.082. SCHOOL DAY; PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE; MINUTE OF
    SILENCE. (a) A school day shall be at least seven hours each day,
    including intermissions and recesses.
    (b) The board of trustees of each school district shall
    require students, once during each school day at each school in the
    district, to recite
    :
    (1) the pledge of allegiance to the United States flag
    in accordance with 4 U.S.C. Section 4, and its subsequent
    amendments; and
    (2) the pledge of allegiance to the state flag in
    accordance with Subchapter C, Chapter 3100, Government Code.
    (c) On written request from a student's parent or guardian,
    a school district shall excuse the student from reciting a pledge of
    allegiance under Subsection (b).
    (d) The board of trustees of each school district shall
    provide for the observance of one minute of silence at each school
    in the district following the recitation of the pledges of
    allegiance to the United States and Texas flags under Subsection
    (b). During the one-minute period, each student may, as the student
    chooses, reflect, pray, meditate, or engage in any other silent
    activity that is not likely to interfere with or distract another
    student. Each teacher or other school employee in charge of
    students during that period shall ensure that each of those
    students remains silent and does not act in a manner that is likely
    to interfere with or distract another student.

    Added by Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 260, 1, eff. May 30, 1995.
    Amended by Acts 2003, 78th Leg., ch. 126, 1, 2, eff. Sept. 1,
    2003.

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    Re: Students in West Virginia School forced to stand for Black National Anthem

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    Why not? The schools are being paid for out of our taxmonies.
    Because its feels like fascism.

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