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    Re: Howard Dean: "The Truth Is Everybody Needs To Pay More Taxes, Not Just The Rich"

    Imagine a country where if one segment of the voters base's taxes were increased/decreased that everyone elses did to by the same percentage. I have a strong feeling that a majority of voters would not be as supportive of many of our governments programs.

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    Re: Howard Dean: "The Truth Is Everybody Needs To Pay More Taxes, Not Just The Rich"

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    So you DON'T agree with Dean after all. It's a package deal, taxes got up on everyone and $800 billion is cut from defense.
    Relax thats not the final deal

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    Re: Howard Dean: "The Truth Is Everybody Needs To Pay More Taxes, Not Just The Rich"

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i agree. i'd be fine with going back to the Clinton tax rates for all brackets, and the SS discount has got to go. these changes would be a serious financial strain on me, but so would recession, default, and currency devaluation when i am getting no raises.

    what is key is that we phase in the tax increases year by year, rather than enact them all at once.
    I would rather see the government loosen the reins on the private sector and try raising more revenue through more private sector profits.
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    Re: Howard Dean: "The Truth Is Everybody Needs To Pay More Taxes, Not Just The Rich"

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Relax thats not the final deal
    I'm confused. Your OP was praising Dean for NOT wanting any deal. Doing nothing will also mean $800 billion in defense cuts and is Deans prime reason for allowing all tax rates to go up.

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    Re: Howard Dean: "The Truth Is Everybody Needs To Pay More Taxes, Not Just The Rich"

    ROTFLOL... Suckers!

    We should gut Parasite Nation and lower taxes.
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: Howard Dean: "The Truth Is Everybody Needs To Pay More Taxes, Not Just The Rich"

    If the dems are stupid enough to push through an across the board tax increase the repubs will own the house and the senate in 2014. That simple.

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    Re: Howard Dean: "The Truth Is Everybody Needs To Pay More Taxes, Not Just The Rich"

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    Imagine a country where if one segment of the voters base's taxes were increased/decreased that everyone elses did to by the same percentage. I have a strong feeling that a majority of voters would not be as supportive of many of our governments programs.
    Imagine a country where all workers made enough to afford to pay taxes and still not starve. That's my dream

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    Re: Howard Dean: "The Truth Is Everybody Needs To Pay More Taxes, Not Just The Rich"

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    If the dems are stupid enough to push through an across the board tax increase the repubs will own the house and the senate in 2014. That simple.
    Sorry but the ball is in the Republicans court, the House needs to pass the bill in front of them or 98% of voters will know who to blame.

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    Re: Howard Dean: "The Truth Is Everybody Needs To Pay More Taxes, Not Just The Rich"

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Sorry but the ball is in the Republicans court, the House needs to pass the bill in front of them or 98% of voters will know who to blame.
    And they know precisely who to blame if their taxes go up (and they're not part of the so-called 1%).

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    Re: Howard Dean: "The Truth Is Everybody Needs To Pay More Taxes, Not Just The Rich"

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    Imagine a country where if one segment of the voters base's taxes were increased/decreased that everyone elses did to by the same percentage. I have a strong feeling that a majority of voters would not be as supportive of many of our governments programs.
    I've been advocating for a tax sctucture on this forum for a while that will never realistically happen, but is meant to bridge the tax gap a bit on various peoples issues.

    These aren't the exact numbers from when I was researching it, but for explanation sakes i'll put some here.

    You have 5 tax brackets, each set with a %.

    Bracket 1 - 0.5%
    Bracket 2 - 1%
    Bracket 3 - 2%
    Bracket 4 - 4%
    Bracket 5 - 7%

    The percentage rate for each bracket is locked, with it being stated that you can't change one without a reduction/increase to all. You then have what would be called the Tax Multiplier. The Tax Multiplier would be a number that congress would set that is applied to all the various brackets. The number can go as low as "1" and as high as "10". So if you set the tax modifier at 5 you'd have these brackets:

    1 - 2.5%
    2 - 5%
    3 - 10%
    4 - 20%
    5 - 35%

    What this would do is make it so tax policy can still be argued back and forth between the parties all they wish, but it'd be an over arching thing not something that could be tailored to one particular group or not. To raise taxes will raise taxes on everyone. By even the lowest bracket having a small base percentage, it assures that tax policy affects EVERYONE to some degree and everyone has some skin in the game. However, it also does use a "progressive" scale where the higher points of money being earned end up getting taxed more.

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