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    Re: Senate passes $631B defense policy bill 98-0

    Any increase in defense spending is reprehensible if not disastrous. I do blame the GOP more for this, since it and the rightwing noise machine have spent years poisoning the well of our political discourse on national security and attacking anybody who is against more spending as unpatriotic.

    Romney did that in the last election.

    So I condemn any democrat who voted for this, but I blame the GOP more for its paranoid rhetoric on national security.

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    Re: Senate passes $631B defense policy bill 98-0

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Using solar to power a home frees up oil which can then be made in to gasoline to power a car. Once again, Logic 101.
    If someone wants to spend their money on a solar system for their home, I say have at it.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Senate passes $631B defense policy bill 98-0

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Any increase in defense spending is reprehensible if not disastrous. I do blame the GOP more for this, since it and the rightwing noise machine have spent years poisoning the well of our political discourse on national security and attacking anybody who is against more spending as unpatriotic.

    Romney did that in the last election.

    So I condemn any democrat who voted for this, but I blame the GOP more for its paranoid rhetoric on national security.
    Why, because they are the majority in The Senate?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Senate passes $631B defense policy bill 98-0

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's one of the biggest wastes of my money, ever.
    I disagree.

    conservatives often argue that they don't want their grandchildren to have to deal with our debt. I concur. however, I would add that our grandchildren should not have to suffer our refusal to acknowledge that oil and fossil fuels are finite resources, and that the global relations will be infinitely more volatile as supplies diminish.

    in a century, the energy market is not going to revolve around oil. I support figuring out what the transportation energy model will look like, developing it first, and then reaping the benefits.

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    Re: Senate passes $631B defense policy bill 98-0

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    I disagree.

    conservatives often argue that they don't want their grandchildren to have to deal with our debt. I concur. however, I would add that our grandchildren should not have to suffer our refusal to acknowledge that oil and fossil fuels are finite resources, and that the global relations will be infinitely more volatile as supplies diminish.

    in a century, the energy market is not going to revolve around oil. I support figuring out what the transportation energy model will look like, developing it first, and then reaping the benefits.
    One word: Solyndra

    If alternative energy is such a winner and not just another money pit that will lose more money than it makes, the private sector should invest private money in the technology and get the ball rolling. How much of your money have you invested in it?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Senate passes $631B defense policy bill 98-0

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Using solar to power a home frees up oil which can then be made in to gasoline to power a car. Once again, Logic 101.
    I don't know where you live but my home and all the homes I've ever lived in never used a drop of oil for anything. Further there is not one power plant that uses oil, all the power plants are fired by coal or natural gas. I take it you did not know that. Now try again.
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    Re: Senate passes $631B defense policy bill 98-0

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    One word: Solyndra

    If alternative energy is such a winner and not just another money pit that will lose more money than it makes, the private sector should invest private money in the technology and get the ball rolling. How much of your money have you invested in it?
    the private sector is better suited to make an alternative energy source more efficient once is is profitable, not to innovate it when it isn't. the difference is that energy is a national security priority, and should be treated as such. funding energy R&D is entirely appropriate, and I'd argue that it's critically important. individual companies will come and go, but that doesn't mean that oil and coal are our best long term options, and it certainly doesn't mean that alternative energy won't be viable. live another century. you'll see.

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    Re: Senate passes $631B defense policy bill 98-0

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Any increase in defense spending is reprehensible if not disastrous. I do blame the GOP more for this, since it and the rightwing noise machine have spent years poisoning the well of our political discourse on national security and attacking anybody who is against more spending as unpatriotic.

    Romney did that in the last election.

    So I condemn any democrat who voted for this, but I blame the GOP more for its paranoid rhetoric on national security.
    This post just may prove, even to you, that you simply, and constantly, babble moronic, partisan stuff. Read the OP, and note that the Senate vote was 98-0 and that demorats are the majority party. Do you think that the demorats lack the balls, or the brains, to play it your way?
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    Re: Senate passes $631B defense policy bill 98-0

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    What I recall hearing on NPR was that the defense Department was concerned about not having funding for biofuels because they supposedly have seen the utility of those in the long-run and want to be able to make the conversion.
    Which they are already doing with the Navy. Also it is costing more to convert systems over.

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    Re: Senate passes $631B defense policy bill 98-0

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Which they are already doing with the Navy. Also it is costing more to convert systems over.
    Is there anything in the DoD that doesn't cost more than planned?

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