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Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

Who knows why [partisan?] you criticize Obama for taking to the "wide open space" of a golf course to "recharge his batteries" when you commend other [Republican] presidents for doing the same?

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They have golf courses in Florida too, no need to fly 4000 extra miles to Hawaii on the tax payer dollar to play golf.
 
It's surprising you're not more familiar with this rather recent, and very historical, Presidency. You'd find it interesting reading.
Peter Ferrara has never written an interesting thing in his life. He is a paid hack of the corporate right-wing. Hence his deep history with the extremist and reliably dishonest "Club for Growth" and his hired-gun role in defending the work of Jack Abramoff. They don't come much mroe sleazy than Peter Ferrara.
 
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They have golf courses in Florida too, no need to fly 4000 extra miles to Hawaii on the tax payer dollar to play golf.
What roots and traditions does Obama have in Florida? How did you feel about footing the bill for Bush's surprise visits to Baghdad? That's even further than Hawaii you know, and he went that far just to create image-enhancing photo-ops. Like the one with the plastic turkey.

Maybe you should just admit that there is nothing to this thread at all and never has been. Behind the curtain, it is just another no-morals "smear Obama" screed. Nothing more.
 
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What roots and traditions does Obama have in Florida? How did you feel about footing the bill for Bush's surprise visits to Baghdad? That's even further than Hawaii you know, and he went that far just to create image-enhancing photo-ops. Like the one with the plastic turkey.

Maybe you should just admit that there is nothing to this thread at all and never has been. Behind the curtain, it is just another no-morals "smear Obama" screed. Nothing more.

You just can't focus on obama and his wasteful spending of tax payer dollars can you. All you can do is try to change the subject to Reagan or Bush, very telling.
 
You just can't focus on obama and his wasteful spending of tax payer dollars can you. All you can do is try to change the subject to Reagan or Bush, very telling.

It's called PRECEDENCE. You sit there and complain about Obama, while you gave a free pass to both Bush and Reagan.

At least stay consistant. Either Bush travelling many many times to his ranch to "recharge his batteries" is wrong as well as Obama or they are all three ok.

If you complained about all three of them and their trips costing tax payer money, at least you would be consistant and would garner some respect. However, you hypocritically defend Bush and Reagan and complain about Obama.

That is the reason your comments deserve little respect. And the same disrespect would go for those that complain about Bush and Reagan, but not Obama.
 
You just can't focus on obama and his wasteful spending of tax payer dollars can you. All you can do is try to change the subject to Reagan or Bush, very telling.
I'm actually focused here on the vapid nature of this thread and so many of your posts within it. Facts be damned, you just want something bad to say about Obama and will invent it out of whole cloth if you have to. Pretty sorry story there. One that unfortunately applies to the greater part of the right-wing in general.
 
Peter Ferrara has never written an interesting thing in his life. He is a paid hack of the corporate right-wing. Hence his deep history with the extremist and reliably dishonest "Club for Growth" and his hired-gun role in defending the work of Jack Abramoff. They don't come much mroe sleazy than Peter Ferrara.

Ad hominom attacks do not further any debate, If you can't deal with facts then don't bother responding.
 
Peter Ferrara has never written an interesting thing in his life. He is a paid hack of the corporate right-wing. Hence his deep history with the extremist and reliably dishonest "Club for Growth" and his hired-gun role in defending the work of Jack Abramoff. They don't come much mroe sleazy than Peter Ferrara.

You've never posted anything interesting on these boards

You sound like a paid Soros funded poster spouting lies and propaganda for money
 
Ad hominom attacks do not further any debate, If you can't deal with facts then don't bother responding.
You might as well have gone to Clint Eastwood as Peter Ferrrara. Claiming anything he has produced to be "interesting" or "historical" is simply a farce. Obviously, you are not familiar with his long career as a paid liar, character assassin, and excuse-making distortionist. As noted, they don't come much sleazier than Peter Ferrara.
 
You've never posted anything interesting on these boards You sound like a paid Soros funded poster spouting lies and propaganda for money
Funny how much difficulty you all have countering such posts, isn't it. Where are the facts that would put all those "lies" and all that "propaganda" to rest? They don't appear. Because they don't exist. Once the arsenal of "prerecorded messages" from right-wing central has been exhausted, it's all over. Then it's down to sloppy attempts at personal attack such as the above. Pretty pathetic.
 
It's surprising you're not more familiar with this rather recent, and very historical, Presidency. You'd find it interesting reading.

The American Spectator : The Worst Economic Recovery Since the Great Depression

I really wish you had just answered my question rather than link a partisan 3 page article that didn't answer it.

If you recall, I asked you what Reagan did to turn the economy around.

The article you posted states how many jobs were added back then and that GDP grew substantially, but it doesn't answer my question -- what did Reagan do to cause that to happen?

Try again.
 
They have golf courses in Florida too, no need to fly 4000 extra miles to Hawaii on the tax payer dollar to play golf.

Your reply has nothing to do with what I said, but anyhoo, Bush spent more time on Air Force One than Obama has. Where's your outrage??
 

Your reply has nothing to do with what I said, but anyhoo, Bush spent more time on Air Force One than Obama has. Where's your outrage??

Start a thread on Bush then, this one is about obama jet setting around in an economy he himself labeled as "the worst since the great depression". Just can't deal with that can you.
 
Start a thread on Bush then, this one is about obama jet setting around in an economy he himself labeled as "the worst since the great depression". Just can't deal with that can you.


Jet setting paying his own expenses minus the Presidential expenses. I'm willing to bet a Harvard Law grad could command a bigger salary than the Presidential one.
 
Jet setting paying his own expenses minus the Presidential expenses. I'm willing to bet a Harvard Law grad could command a bigger salary than the Presidential one.

What was obama's salary before becoming pres? Tax payers pay for his jets and their operating cost by the way.
 
You just can't focus on obama and his wasteful spending of tax payer dollars can you. All you can do is try to change the subject to Reagan or Bush, very telling.
Since it's less wasteful than any president you ever voted for, you're not really in a position to complain.

Obama took 4 flights back and forth to Hawaii. That's 19,300 miles or 34 hours in the air. Using your figure of $180K/hour, that's $6.1M

But in Reagan's first year alone, he traveled 7 times to his ranch in CA (where he would continue to travel many times every year of his presidency). For that one year alone, Reagan logged That's 38,600 miles or 68 hours in the air. Using your figure of $180K/hour, that's $12.2M in current dollars

Reagan -- twice Obama's spending in just his first year alone. Where's your outrage?

Even worse, was Dubya. During his 8 years as president, he traveled some 77 times to his ranch in TX. That's a whopping 193,700 miles or 340 hours in the air. Using your figure of $180K/hour, that's $61.2M in current dollars!

Bush -- 10 times Obama's spending to his ranch. Where's your outrage?

Oh, wait ... they're Republicans so you have no outrage for them.
 
Start a thread on Bush then, this one is about obama jet setting around in an economy he himself labeled as "the worst since the great depression". Just can't deal with that can you.
Since he's spending less time on Air Force One than presidents you voted for, it's completely within reason to highlight your hypocrisy on the matter. In fact, compared to some other Republican presidents, Obama's Air Force One expenses are a bargain.

Like it or not, it's all relative.
 
I really wish you had just answered my question rather than link a partisan 3 page article that didn't answer it.


History just is. If you deliberately wanted something negative about the Reagan recovery, why didn't you say so?
If you recall, I asked you what Reagan did to turn the economy around.

He did a number of things. Why should I have to review recent history for you? That article explains it all and saves a lot of time. I can't be bothered explaining history to those who refuse to learn.

The article you posted states how many jobs were added back then and that GDP grew substantially, but it doesn't answer my question -- what did Reagan do to cause that to happen?

I'm not here to educate you. Learn some history and facts and then we can talk about it. This raises the question as to why you are even on these boards if you don't have a basic understanding of what Ronald Reagan actually did. If they don't teach it where you attended school there are books available and a lot of reliable information on the internet.


Try again.

Sorry, mate. No time for thickees.
 
History just is. If you deliberately wanted something negative about the Reagan recovery, why didn't you say so?
I said nothing negative about it. You sound paranoid.

He did a number of things. Why should I have to review recent history for you?
You don't have to. Perhaps you can't credit him? Who knows, you seem reluctant to answer such a simple question.

That article explains it all and saves a lot of time. I can't be bothered explaining history to those who refuse to learn.
Sorry, but now you're spouting bull****. That article didn't specify what Reagan did to turn the economy around. All it said about that period was that unemployment fell and GDP rose. It did not say what Reagan did to cause that to happen.

I'm not here to educate you.
I'm not expecting you to. Actually, if you would answer the question (and answer it honestly), I am here to educate you.

Learn some history and facts and then we can talk about it. This raises the question as to why you are even on these boards if you don't have a basic understanding of what Ronald Reagan actually did. If they don't teach it where you attended school there are books available and a lot of reliable information on the internet.
I know the history. What I'm wondering is, if you know it, why you're so scared to say what Reagan did that turned the economy around?
 
What was obama's salary before becoming pres?

You can google that if you want.

Tax payers pay for his jets and their operating cost by the way.

Just like they have for other Presidents. Why the sudden outrage?

FYI you could have gotten me had you taken the time to google:

No. 2 is Harvard Law School, where grads with little or no experience pull down a median salary of $143,000. At mid-career, Harvard law graduates earn $234,000, on average.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacquelynsmith/2012/03/13/the-law-schools-whose-grads-earn-the-most/
 
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What was obama's salary before becoming pres? Tax payers pay for his jets and their operating cost by the way.

Yet again, you complaining about Obama while giving both Reagan and Bush (both of whom spent way more than Obama on trips) a free pass just proves your point to be hypocritical, dishonest, and quite pathetic.

You would have gained some credibility had you complained about all three, but you giving free passes for Republican presidents proves your motives to be completely dishonest and partisan.
 
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