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Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

It'd be nicer if they reflected honest economic costs. Truth is that costs associates with most land transportation and Secret Service-based costs are sunk costs - those exist if the dude essentially takes a drive downtown to In and Out Burger. I'd rather them reflect the costs that accurately portray the difference between doing something and doing nothing. That's what I'm worried about as an accountant.

Anyone with a financial background who doesn't differentiate fixed and variable costs is an ideologue, period.
 
LOL! Actually, Chris Sommers went on the total-joke Fox & Friends morning show shortly after the White House event specifically to shoot down the stupid right-wing bunk about his trip. Not that the facts mattered much to those idiots. But you might still have learned the actual first-hand details there. You might even have learned that the business uptick from all the positive publicity had caused him to hire 15 new employees. You might even have found out that the pizza served in the Roosevelt Room had included the pesto-flavored "East Loop", the vegetarian "Berkeley," and the "Bucktown," which is topped with roasted chicken. There was also a custom pizza, the "Hyde Park", with Buffalo wing hot sauce made specially for the President, an obsessive when it comes to hot sauce.

But no. Instead...

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Got any links?

Also they paid for the secret service and the sweeps? Show us the receipts.
 
Got any links?
Got any idea how hard they would be to find all by yourself?

Also they paid for the secret service and the sweeps? Show us the receipts.
LOL! The White House is protected 24/7. But it's an office complex. People are coming and going all the time. They are included in the tab whether they cook any pizza or not.
 
Got any idea how hard they would be to find all by yourself?


LOL! The White House is protected 24/7. But it's an office complex. People are coming and going all the time. They are included in the tab whether they cook any pizza or not.

You are not aware of what takes place when non government people interact with the President, figures, we knew what you were talking out of all along.
 
You are not aware of what takes place when non government people interact with the President, figures, we knew what you were talking out of all along.
Found any of those links to the St. Louis pizza people paying their own way here and back yet? Bothered to look or just as happy not to find out how wrong you were? Maybe you should go look at the White House visitors logs as well, by the way...
 
Don't understand the issue here?

Is it that Obama shouldn't take a vacation?

Obama isn't "spending" 4 million. He's taking a vacation.

The protocols of protecting the President apply no matter where he is. He has to travel by Airforce One = its not his choice he is basically a prisoner of the secret service. He can't go anywhere without them, he can't travel by normal transport, he can't be "uncovered" at any time, he can't just randomly go to a restaurant or movie theatre.

And yet, the right is bitchin' about the costs of the most powerful man on the planet taking a break from the stresses of the job. Or is mental and emotional well being not important?


tempest meet teapot.
 
tempest meet teapot.
It's not even that. It's just made up partisan nonsense. Every President takes vacations. Criticize the ones who take more than others perhaps, but Eisenhower went off to play golf, Reagan went off to ride horsies, and Bush-43 went off to cut brush for some reason (even though no actual rancher would have done that). And while it's true that no President is allowed to fly commercial, they are all in fact required to pay out-of-pocket as if they and those they took along had. They also pay out-of-pocket for lodging, meals, and entertainment while on vacation. Kind of the same deal as you and I get. But you can count on somebody out there being crass enough to manufacture yet another dose of faux-outrage over it.
 
Found any of those links to the St. Louis pizza people paying their own way here and back yet? Bothered to look or just as happy not to find out how wrong you were? Maybe you should go look at the White House visitors logs as well, by the way...

It is you that has the burden of proof, so far there has been none just as suspected
 
Hey I have no problem with any President taking a vacation! Feel lucky I am not the President I can only image the damage I could do at SaxFifth while on the government dole. I would make Sarah Palin look cheap on her 100k spending spree. That would get spent on a Thursday
 
It is you that has the burden of proof, so far there has been none just as suspected
Beyond legally blind and determined to remain so. Just as suspected. What awful things would happen in your world simply from learning that the Pi people did indeed pay their own way to DC? A world that could be upset by such a little thing can hardly have been very well imagined.
 
Hey I have no problem with any President taking a vacation! Feel lucky I am not the President I can only image the damage I could do at SaxFifth while on the government dole. I would make Sarah Palin look cheap on her 100k spending spree. That would get spent on a Thursday
Hmmm. Presidents pay out of pocket for their personal expenses. If the President is working late one night in the residence area and calls down to the White House kitchen to ask that a pastrami sandwich be sent up, one will certainly arrive, but he has to pay for it. Presidents receive an annual salary of $400K and a business expense account of $50K. Since he was up late working in the example above, he could pay for the pastrami sandwich from his expense account. Had he been up late reading or watching a movie, he would have to pay out of his salary or other personal resources.
 
Thanks for proving you can't back up what you post.
 
All I can say is, unbelievable! This man is spending 4 million TAXPAYER dollars on a luxury vacation is the US economy teeters on the verge of a double dip recession and he himself is calling for higher taxes instead of reduced spending. You guys still proud you voted for this idiot?

"President Obama is reportedly scheduled to be vacationing in Hawaii on January 2, the date billions in spending cuts – and untold consequences for the economy – will kick in if a deal is not reached on the “fiscal cliff.”According to the Hawaii Reporter, residents who live in the area of Oahu where Obama and his family vacation have been told that the usual restrictions on their movements during an Obama stay will be in place for 21 days, from December 17 through January 6"


.The Yeshiva World Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation « » Frum Jewish News

Well deserved...I hope he enjoys it. I think the government should give him a couple million so he can relax himself at the roullette table.
 
Thanks for proving you can't back up what you post.
Still a-skeered, huh? Well, you just stay hunkered down in the storm cellar then. Meanwhile, it was YOUR claim that "this idiot flew his favorite pizza maker from St. Louis to DC." That's an entirely false claim of course, as I and all those scary internet sites lurking out there have been pointing out. You haven't supported your claim at all. And you won't because you can't.
 
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Well deserved...I hope he enjoys it. I think the government should give him a couple million so he can relax himself at the roullette table.
Hawaii and Utah are the only two US states that have no form of legalized gambling at all.
 
Still a-skeered, huh? Well, you just stay hunkered down in the storm cellar then. Meanwhile, it was YOUR claim that "this idiot flew his favorite pizza maker from St. Louis to DC." That's an entirely false claim of course, as I and all those scary internet sites lurking out there have been pointing out. You haven't supported your claim at all. And you won't because you can't.

I say you are the "scared one" since you have failed to show any links backing up what you say
 
Don't understand the issue here?

Is it that Obama shouldn't take a vacation?

Obama isn't "spending" 4 million. He's taking a vacation.

The protocols of protecting the President apply no matter where he is. He has to travel by Airforce One = its not his choice he is basically a prisoner of the secret service. He can't go anywhere without them, he can't travel by normal transport, he can't be "uncovered" at any time, he can't just randomly go to a restaurant or movie theatre.

And yet, the right is bitchin' about the costs of the most powerful man on the planet taking a break from the stresses of the job. Or is mental and emotional well being not important?


tempest meet teapot.

The Royal Family is a bargain compared to the Big Owe.

Mark Steyn: William & Kate have nothing on Obama | one, president, royal - Opinion - The Orange County Register

His dog walker is certainly doing well also.
 
All I can say is, unbelievable! This man is spending 4 million TAXPAYER dollars on a luxury vacation is the US economy teeters on the verge of a double dip recession and he himself is calling for higher taxes instead of reduced spending. You guys still proud you voted for this idiot?

"President Obama is reportedly scheduled to be vacationing in Hawaii on January 2, the date billions in spending cuts – and untold consequences for the economy – will kick in if a deal is not reached on the “fiscal cliff.”According to the Hawaii Reporter, residents who live in the area of Oahu where Obama and his family vacation have been told that the usual restrictions on their movements during an Obama stay will be in place for 21 days, from December 17 through January 6"


.The Yeshiva World Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation « » Frum Jewish News



Good for him, he can get some much needed rest while the GOP contemplates what's going to happen to their House members up for reelection in 2014 if they do not act to do what the Democrats in the Senate have already done, extend the tax cuts for the middle class.

Aloha, Mr. President! :2wave:
 
Why all the interest in Obama's vacations? Last I heard Obama still hasn't taken as much vacation time as Bush or spent nearly as much as Bush did on vacations,
 
Why all the interest in Obama's vacations? Last I heard Obama still hasn't taken as much vacation time as Bush or spent nearly as much as Bush did on vacations,

Last you heard? Where did you hear this?

In any case, Bush is no longer President. It's time to move on.
 
Last you heard? Where did you hear this?

In any case, Bush is no longer President. It's time to move on.

And as far as I remember Bushy usually went to his ranch, not some lavish resort.
 
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