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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    You've never posted anything interesting on these boards You sound like a paid Soros funded poster spouting lies and propaganda for money
    Funny how much difficulty you all have countering such posts, isn't it. Where are the facts that would put all those "lies" and all that "propaganda" to rest? They don't appear. Because they don't exist. Once the arsenal of "prerecorded messages" from right-wing central has been exhausted, it's all over. Then it's down to sloppy attempts at personal attack such as the above. Pretty pathetic.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It's surprising you're not more familiar with this rather recent, and very historical, Presidency. You'd find it interesting reading.

    The American Spectator : The Worst Economic Recovery Since the Great Depression
    I really wish you had just answered my question rather than link a partisan 3 page article that didn't answer it.

    If you recall, I asked you what Reagan did to turn the economy around.

    The article you posted states how many jobs were added back then and that GDP grew substantially, but it doesn't answer my question -- what did Reagan do to cause that to happen?

    Try again.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    They have golf courses in Florida too, no need to fly 4000 extra miles to Hawaii on the tax payer dollar to play golf.

    Your reply has nothing to do with what I said, but anyhoo, Bush spent more time on Air Force One than Obama has. Where's your outrage??

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post

    Your reply has nothing to do with what I said, but anyhoo, Bush spent more time on Air Force One than Obama has. Where's your outrage??
    Start a thread on Bush then, this one is about obama jet setting around in an economy he himself labeled as "the worst since the great depression". Just can't deal with that can you.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Start a thread on Bush then, this one is about obama jet setting around in an economy he himself labeled as "the worst since the great depression". Just can't deal with that can you.

    Jet setting paying his own expenses minus the Presidential expenses. I'm willing to bet a Harvard Law grad could command a bigger salary than the Presidential one.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Jet setting paying his own expenses minus the Presidential expenses. I'm willing to bet a Harvard Law grad could command a bigger salary than the Presidential one.
    What was obama's salary before becoming pres? Tax payers pay for his jets and their operating cost by the way.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You just can't focus on obama and his wasteful spending of tax payer dollars can you. All you can do is try to change the subject to Reagan or Bush, very telling.
    Since it's less wasteful than any president you ever voted for, you're not really in a position to complain.

    Obama took 4 flights back and forth to Hawaii. That's 19,300 miles or 34 hours in the air. Using your figure of $180K/hour, that's $6.1M

    But in Reagan's first year alone, he traveled 7 times to his ranch in CA (where he would continue to travel many times every year of his presidency). For that one year alone, Reagan logged That's 38,600 miles or 68 hours in the air. Using your figure of $180K/hour, that's $12.2M in current dollars

    Reagan -- twice Obama's spending in just his first year alone. Where's your outrage?

    Even worse, was Dubya. During his 8 years as president, he traveled some 77 times to his ranch in TX. That's a whopping 193,700 miles or 340 hours in the air. Using your figure of $180K/hour, that's $61.2M in current dollars!

    Bush -- 10 times Obama's spending to his ranch. Where's your outrage?

    Oh, wait ... they're Republicans so you have no outrage for them.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Start a thread on Bush then, this one is about obama jet setting around in an economy he himself labeled as "the worst since the great depression". Just can't deal with that can you.
    Since he's spending less time on Air Force One than presidents you voted for, it's completely within reason to highlight your hypocrisy on the matter. In fact, compared to some other Republican presidents, Obama's Air Force One expenses are a bargain.

    Like it or not, it's all relative.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I really wish you had just answered my question rather than link a partisan 3 page article that didn't answer it.


    History just is. If you deliberately wanted something negative about the Reagan recovery, why didn't you say so?
    If you recall, I asked you what Reagan did to turn the economy around.
    He did a number of things. Why should I have to review recent history for you? That article explains it all and saves a lot of time. I can't be bothered explaining history to those who refuse to learn.

    The article you posted states how many jobs were added back then and that GDP grew substantially, but it doesn't answer my question -- what did Reagan do to cause that to happen?
    I'm not here to educate you. Learn some history and facts and then we can talk about it. This raises the question as to why you are even on these boards if you don't have a basic understanding of what Ronald Reagan actually did. If they don't teach it where you attended school there are books available and a lot of reliable information on the internet.


    Try again.
    Sorry, mate. No time for thickees.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    History just is. If you deliberately wanted something negative about the Reagan recovery, why didn't you say so?
    I said nothing negative about it. You sound paranoid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    He did a number of things. Why should I have to review recent history for you?
    You don't have to. Perhaps you can't credit him? Who knows, you seem reluctant to answer such a simple question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That article explains it all and saves a lot of time. I can't be bothered explaining history to those who refuse to learn.
    Sorry, but now you're spouting bull****. That article didn't specify what Reagan did to turn the economy around. All it said about that period was that unemployment fell and GDP rose. It did not say what Reagan did to cause that to happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I'm not here to educate you.
    I'm not expecting you to. Actually, if you would answer the question (and answer it honestly), I am here to educate you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Learn some history and facts and then we can talk about it. This raises the question as to why you are even on these boards if you don't have a basic understanding of what Ronald Reagan actually did. If they don't teach it where you attended school there are books available and a lot of reliable information on the internet.
    I know the history. What I'm wondering is, if you know it, why you're so scared to say what Reagan did that turned the economy around?

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