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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    If you understood how federal money worked, you would know why you cannot simply allocate it elsewhere.

    It is foolish to think a president should NEVER go on vacation. Cost is incurred no matter whether the president leaves the White House or not.

    He is visiting his home state like previous presidents have done in the past. Sorry you don't like it, get over it.
    No it is not.

    Use your head.

    If a POTUS spends $10 million on personal travel one year and then $2 million the next - that means that the government has to spend $8 million less dollars on the President's travel expenses or Air Force One costs or whatever the applicable cost(s) is.

    Are you seriously suggesting that when a President incurs less travel expenses one year over the last one that the government, if it does exactly the same things otherwise, will still have exactly the same spending costs?

    No offense - but you cannot be that dense.

    Sure, they might say 'Hey, look extra money 'cause Obama didn't use it. Let's go get hookers for everyone and put it on his travel tab.'

    But the point is, that money will be saved until otherwise spent on other, non-related things.
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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    He is from Hawaii. If he were from Baltimore, it would be cheaper. The President has no control over what the Secret Service does to protect him and that comes at a cost. Sure he could go to Camp David, but he isn't from Camp David. He could eat off the dollar menu and fire the WH kitchen staff too and save us some money. He could grow pot on the south lawn and make us some money. Not everything in the universe is about the cost-benefit.
    What is he - a salmon?

    He will drop dead if he does not make it home every Christmas?


    Give me a break...lol.


    He can vacation close to home while he is in office.

    If he doesn't like it - tough...don't take the job.
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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    No. I carefully stated it was an opinion. I can't prove Romney didn't murder anybody either. There are no articles about what he DIDN'T do so your request is not reasonable. You're being the lazy one here.

    What kind of evidence would I provide? Thew murder weapon? The "lack" of something is not evidence based. If he donated $50M to help ??? you should be able to make me the fool in one quick minute.



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    your mindset on this issue is not likely reversible....
    If you make a claim, you should be willing to back it up with some facts, or at least some evidence, Making a claim and inviting others to prove you wrong is lazy. There is currently a thread on that....

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Awwwwe...pooor baby.

    As I posted above - it's about $3 million just to fly Air Force One (with equipment) to Hawaii and back. He could not find somewhere closer to Washington to relax? He is going to drop dead from exhaustion unless he spends $3M tax dollars and gets to Hawaii?

    Give me a break.

    No one forced him to take the job - he knew it would be stressful.

    But if going to Hawaii is more important to him then helping the poor with $3 million dollars saved from flying there - fine...he will be judged accordingly. He is a selfish dickhead...on top of being a crummy President.

    Hope and Change my ass.

    More of the Same is more like it.
    still bent out of shape that you lost the election?

    LOL, sorry for your tragic loss

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Obama himself said he inherited the worst economy since the great depression and that very same economy is still with us. As hoards of Americans go on food stamps, lose their homes, have their unemployment insurance run out and go to the food bank for a crappy Thanksgiving meal Obama takes two 727s to Hawaii on a 20 day 4 mill luxury vacation. That's right TWO jets instead of the one that every other president has used. Apparently obama needs a special cargo jet for his toys. He lives it up while America is "in the worst economy since the great depression", some leader huh. You'd think the man would show a little restraint in his spending. DISGUSTING!

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Tonawanda View Post
    The point of my post:

    1. Benghazi crisis, he went to a fundraiser instead of returning to the White House.
    2. East coast disaster, he went there to rev-up his campaign.

    And, in the current situation, I think announcing his big vacations plans sends a bad signal.

    Finally, are you ever going to let go of the Bush excuse card. It's tantamount to saying Bush was a AH so Obama can be one too. So, Obama can do anything Bush did, and its OK. The last time I had to explain that this was ridicules reasoning, my kids were about 10 years old.
    It's funny how conservatives had NO problem with Bush going on vacations, even voted for him twice, but are now complaining about Obama. Your faux outrage is noted and quite amusing though. Please continue on your littel "outrage" at Obama, it's making my day laughing at you and the others complaining.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    No it is not.

    Use your head.

    If a POTUS spends $10 million on personal travel one year and then $2 million the next - that means that the government has to spend $8 million less dollars on the President's travel expenses or Air Force One costs or whatever the applicable cost(s) is.

    Are you seriously suggesting that when a President incurs less travel expenses one year over the last one that the government, if it does exactly the same things otherwise, will still have exactly the same spending costs?

    No offense - but you cannot be that dense.

    Sure, they might say 'Hey, look extra money 'cause Obama didn't use it. Let's go get hookers for everyone and put it on his travel tab.'

    But the point is, that money will be saved until otherwise spent on other, non-related things.
    You know, it's completely pointless explaining anything to you as you have a "Obama is the devil" mindset because he goes on vacataion like ANY OTHER PRESIDENT you have or would have voted for.

    But continue your false outrage, I'm laughing at you and the others over it. It's making my day honestly.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    still bent out of shape that you lost the election?

    LOL, sorry for your tragic loss
    LOL...you people just cannot stop putting words in my mouth when you have NO IDEA what you are talking about.


    I was hoping that he would win.

    I make my living as an investor - and most of my investments are in gold/silver. And gold bugs like me have done VERY WELL with Obama in power.

    gold_5_year_o_usd.jpg

    http://www.goldprice.org/gold-price-history.html

    And as long as he keeps spending more and more while supporting the Fed doing the same and keeping interest rates ridiculously low - my gold and silver will continue to (overall) do great.

    So no - I was pleased as punch that he won.

    Oh sure, it was bad for the nation (though Romney would not have been that much better, imo).

    But it was GREAT for me.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    It's funny how conservatives
    and conservatives that claim that they are independents/libertarians

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Obama himself said he inherited the worst economy since the great depression and that very same economy is still with us. As hoards of Americans go on food stamps, lose their homes, have their unemployment insurance run out and go to the food bank for a crappy Thanksgiving meal Obama takes two 727s to Hawaii on a 20 day 4 mill luxury vacation. That's right TWO jets instead of the one that every other president has used. Apparently obama needs a special cargo jet for his toys. He lives it up while America is "in the worst economy since the great depression", some leader huh. You'd think the man would show a little restraint in his spending. DISGUSTING!
    /cues violins playing.

    Oh the sweet desperate cries of a "compationate conservative" saying "please think of all the Americans suffering".

    Do you complaing about YOUR politicians that go on vacations while America is suffering? Do you call on all the blowheart conservatives like Rush and Sean, and Mark Levin to poor their extra dollars towards helping the "suffering" Americans? Or is this all faux outrage because a Dem President is doing what GOP presidents have done in the past?

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