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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I can't respond to all your charges so I will pick the low hanging fruit.
    Even what you think of as low-hanging fruit is far too high for you to reach. Reagan's statement was that Mt. St. Helen's produced more pollution than all the automobiles in the country. Try getting him off that hook. Try it after considering that the actual statement was all the cars in the coutnry IN TEN YEARS. Try it after realizing that at its peak, Mt. St. Helen's was releasing about 2,000 tons of sulfur dioxide per day into the atmosphere as against the 80,000 plus tons of sulfur dioxide per day released into the air at the time by automobiles. Reagan was a rube preaching to yahoos. And he always had an audience.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Apparently I was wrong. I was basing flight cost on exective 727 cost per hour but it seems to cost quite a bit more to fly air force one. This just gets worse the more I look into it.
    It hasn't become any less of a mindless partisan cheap shot, however. The dime-store right-wing propaganda mills spin up some sort of criticism of EVERYTHING Obama does. It was mindless Republican intransigence that stretched this whole cliff thing out until the last minute. Put the extra vacation cost blame on them. Also whatever extra costs the IRS has to run up now in order to get tax forms and instructions ready in time for April 15. Right-wingers are dyed-in-the-wool losers who would boo Obama if he won the Nobel Peace Prize. Oh wait...
    Last edited by Cardinal Fang; 01-03-13 at 04:33 PM.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You are mixing Bush with Reagan in a haphazard manner that makes your post gibberish, you flunked English class huh.
    No, he's exactly right. The "Bush ranch" was a hog farm purchased and dressed up in 2000 to serve as a manly PR backdrop in emulation of Reagan's bounding about across his Santa Barbara spread. But Bush indeed did not know how to ride and looked ridiculous on a horse. So they substituted clearing brush with a manly chainsaw instead, something that an actual rancher would not do since brush provides erosion control for the washes and gullies when the rains come. The whole ranch act was Hollywood. Even the cattle were trucked in. The post-presidency Bushes have been spotted in Waco/Crawford from time to time for Easter and Christmas retreats, but they don't live there. They live in Preston Hollow, the same overstuffed moneybags Dallas neighborhood they lived in before the clown ran for governor. Back to his spoiled brat, silver-spoon roots.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    No, he's exactly right. The "Bush ranch" was a hog farm purchased and dressed up in 2000 to serve as a manly PR backdrop in emulation of Reagan's bounding about across his Santa Barbara spread. But Bush indeed did not know how to ride and looked ridiculous on a horse. So they substituted clearing brush with a manly chainsaw instead, something that an actual rancher would not do since brush provides erosion control for the washes and gullies when the rains come. The whole ranch act was Hollywood. Even the cattle were trucked in. The post-presidency Bushes have been spotted in Waco/Crawford from time to time for Easter and Christmas retreats, but they don't live there. They live in Preston Hollow, the same overstuffed moneybags Dallas neighborhood they lived in before the clown ran for governor. Back to his spoiled brat, silver-spoon roots.
    Neither Bush nor Reagan claimed to be ranchers, they did however live on what were ranches. Reagan rode horses, Bush road mt bikes but the point is they went to their wide open spaces to recharge their batteries and get out of the beltway mentality. Bully for them.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    Even what you think of as low-hanging fruit is far too high for you to reach. Reagan's statement was that Mt. St. Helen's produced more pollution than all the automobiles in the country. Try getting him off that hook. Try it after considering that the actual statement was all the cars in the coutnry IN TEN YEARS. Try it after realizing that at its peak, Mt. St. Helen's was releasing about 2,000 tons of sulfur dioxide per day into the atmosphere as against the 80,000 plus tons of sulfur dioxide per day released into the air at the time by automobiles. Reagan was a rube preaching to yahoos. And he always had an audience.
    If you are going to quote somebody quote them in context and accurately, the quote by Reagan admitted he was speculating and was aw struck after flying over Mt St Helen's.

    "I have flown twice over Mt St. Helens out on our west coast. I'm not a scientist and I don't know the figures, but I have a suspicion that that one little mountain has probably released more sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere of the world than has been released in the last ten years of automobile driving or things of that kind that people are so concerned about."

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Neither Bush nor Reagan claimed to be ranchers, they did however live on what were ranches. Reagan rode horses, Bush road mt bikes but the point is they went to their wide open spaces to recharge their batteries and get out of the beltway mentality. Bully for them.

    So ranch (that is remodeled and upgraded on the taxpayer dime) is ok, but Hawaii is not? The more and more I hear righties complaining about this, the more I laugh at their pettiness.

    Also, you have to take into account the NUMBER OF TIMES that Bush used Airforce one to fly to his ranch. Seriously, you're complaints are looking foolish by each post.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

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    So ranch (that is remodeled and upgraded on the taxpayer dime) is ok, but Hawaii is not? The more and more I hear righties complaining about this, the more I laugh at their pettiness.

    Also, you have to take into account the NUMBER OF TIMES that Bush used Airforce one to fly to his ranch. Seriously, you're complaints are looking foolish by each post.
    What you keep avoiding by saying obama is no worse than Reagan or Bush is the fact that he is supposedly an environmentalist that thinks we are warming the earth with fossil fuels but uses thousands more gallons of fuel to go on vacation to Hawaii rather than sunny Florida. Add to that the fact we are in "the worst economy since the great depression" and he shows no restraint in spending our money on his vacation and you have a joke not a president.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    What you keep avoiding by saying obama is no worse than Reagan or Bush is the fact that he is supposedly an environmentalist that thinks we are warming the earth with fossil fuels but uses thousands more gallons of fuel to go on vacation to Hawaii rather than sunny Florida. Add to that the fact we are in "the worst economy since the great depression" and he shows no restraint in spending our money on his vacation and you have a joke not a president.
    Yet you give passes to bush and complain about Obama when bush traveled far more times than Obama back to his ranch.

    Make up your partisan mind please.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yet you give passes to bush and complain about Obama when bush traveled far more times than Obama back to his ranch.

    Make up your partisan mind please.
    Leftists are all about the past. That.s why they know so little of the present and the future.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Leftists are all about the past. That.s why they know so little of the present and the future.
    Actually traditionally conservatives are traditionalists. and leftists are liberals. wouldnt you agree?
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