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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    By the way, Air Force One is typically one or the other of a pair of highly modified Boeing 747's. And most Presidential trips (including this one) require an accompanying pair of C-17 transports.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Executive Boeing 727-100 REW
    Estimated Operating Costs

    INDICATED DIRECT COSTS PER HOUR

    Fuel 1,785.00
    Maintenance Labor 262.58
    Parts Airframe/Eng/Avion 126.59
    Engine restoration 419.31
    Thrust Reverser Overhaul 15.00
    APU Overhaul 20.00
    Misc. Exp. –Landing/Parking 50.70
    -Crew Expenses 202.50
    -Supplies/Catering 73.70
    Total Direct Cost/Hour: $2,956.00

    The distance from Washington, DC to Honolulu is 4835 miles


    Do the math times 2, yup TWO jets for obama to go on his luxury vacation.


    Actually do the math times 4, there and back.
    Ok, so I did the math. Comes to [roughly] $99,357 (assuming your numbers are accurate). So how on Earth do you figure this trip cost $4 million? Especially given that you attributed the bulk of the cost to just flying there and back?

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Ok, so I did the math. Comes to [roughly] $99,357 (assuming your numbers are accurate). So how on Earth do you figure this trip cost $4 million? Especially given that you attributed the bulk of the cost to just flying there and back?
    Math skill and Republicans do not go hand in hand they bitch about the debt and they are responcible for 11 trillion of it! So should we be that surprised they got this wrong!

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by TaraAnne View Post
    Math skill and Republicans do not go hand in hand they bitch about the debt and they are responcible for 11 trillion of it! So should we be that surprised they got this wrong!

    I really don't expect much from the person who even up until recently, was just soooo sure that Joe the Sheriff was going to prove [finally] that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii.



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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Hey, at least Pres Obama remembered how to use Autopen! Politicians totally blow my mind sometimes. I think we need a leadership seminar for our elected officials in D.C.
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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    He did a horrible job. He took the tail end of an oil supply crisis and through his voodoo supply-side economics turned it into what was then the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression. Unemployment was above 10% for ten straight months. Later came the 1987 stock market crash. He wasted billions (and that was a lot of money in those days) on his hapless Star Wars toy. He sold weapons to Iran and illegally used the proceeds to fund the operation of right-wing Central American death squads. He failed to do anything at all about the AIDS epidemic. In the wake of the Challenger disaster, he sent sensitive missile technology to China. He failed to notice that North Korea was building a major plutonium reactor. Despite all that famous free cheese, he dismantled the social safety net and crippled enviromental efforts. He counted ketchup as a vegetable for the school lunch program and thought trees and Mount St. Helen's created more pollution that American automobiles. If Nancy's astrologer hadn't happened to get a few things right now and then, there's no telling how much damage the man might have done.
    I can't respond to all your charges so I will pick the low hanging fruit.



    "Environmentalists hooted when Ronald Reagan claimed — wrongly — that trees produce more pollution than cars.
    But right now, the biggest single source of air pollution in Washington isn't a power plant, pulp mill or anything else created by man.

    It's a volcano.

    Since Mount St. Helens started erupting in early October, it has been pumping out between 50 and 250 tons a day of sulfur dioxide, the lung-stinging gas that causes acid rain and contributes to haze.

    Those emissions are so high that if the volcano was a new factory, it probably couldn't get a permit to operate, said Clint Bowman, an atmospheric physicist for the Washington Department of Ecology.

    All of the state's industries combined produce about 120 tons a day of the noxious gas.

    The volcano has even pulled ahead of the coal-fired power plant near Centralia that is normally the state's top air polluter. In the mid-1990s, when the facility's emission rate was about 200 tons a day, regulators pressed for $250 million in pollution controls to bring it down to today's level of 27 tons.

    The Seattle Times: Local News: Mount St. Helens the state's No. 1 air polluter

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Ok, so I did the math. Comes to [roughly] $99,357 (assuming your numbers are accurate). So how on Earth do you figure this trip cost $4 million? Especially given that you attributed the bulk of the cost to just flying there and back?
    My comment was strictly on the fact that obama chose to go to Hawaii on vacation and how much that cost the taxpayer in flight cost vs going to Florida which would have shown at least some moderation not only in money spent but in "global warming" jet fuel being consumed. Like I said he does not lead by example and definitely does not "feel our pain". The overall cost of his vacation is in the article sited in the op.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Ok, so I did the math. Comes to [roughly] $99,357 (assuming your numbers are accurate). So how on Earth do you figure this trip cost $4 million? Especially given that you attributed the bulk of the cost to just flying there and back?
    Apparently I was wrong. I was basing flight cost on exective 727 cost per hour but it seems to cost quite a bit more to fly air force one. This just gets worse the more I look into it.




    "Air Force One is known to cost about $180,000 an hour to fly. Based on an estimated 18 hours roundtrip flying time for the jet between Washington and Honolulu, the travel cost alone of Obama’s decision to return to Hawaii amounts to around $3.24 million. And that doesn’t include the price tag for the massive security operation required to move the president or the cost of the cargo plane that follows Air Force One around.

    The Obamas could have saved taxpayers millions by returning from Hawaii together after Christmas and then resuming their vacation at one of the many ritzy resorts that lie outside of Washington. If the beach is a must, even a trip to Florida would have been far less expensive.


    Obama Returns to Hawaii at an Added Cost of Over $3 Million | The Blog on Obama: White House Dossier

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Going home and getting the Hell out of DC, working on your ranch cutting firewood, riding horses and clearing land is good for the soul of a president and centers him. Flying off to a luxury villa in Hawaii on a vacation that cost more than the average American earns in 20 years is an entirely different thing.
    He bought the old hog farm, Prairie Chapel Ranch, just before becoming President and has rarely been back since leaving office.

    It was a prop for the gullible.

    Ever seen Dubya on a horse? Just ask former Mexican President Vicente Fox.

    George Bush the Texan is 'scared of horses' - Telegraph

    Clearing brush? LOL.....a rancher doesn't clear brush on a 1,500 acre ranch by hand, how silly can you get......LOL!!!!.....a rancher runs cattle.
    In Texas we call that 'All Hat and No Cattle'.
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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    He bought the old hog farm, Prairie Chapel Ranch, just before becoming President and has rarely been back since leaving office.

    It was a prop for the gullible.

    Ever seen Dubya on a horse? Just ask former Mexican President Vicente Fox.

    George Bush the Texan is 'scared of horses' - Telegraph

    Clearing brush? LOL.....a rancher doesn't clear brush on a 1,500 acre ranch by hand, how silly can you get......LOL!!!!.....a rancher runs cattle.
    In Texas we call that 'All Hat and No Cattle'.
    You are mixing Bush with Reagan in a haphazard manner that makes your post gibberish, you flunked English class huh.

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