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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Yep, food stamp usage is on the rise. That's a price we are paying for poor wages across the country and the lack of good jobs coming back.

    Unfortunately, so far in this recovery, the vast majority of new jobs have been low wage.
    Which is exactly what Republicans want. They seem to love the idea that jobs over seas are paying lower so it should be accepted that the American worker works for less so the big boys can take all the profit. They should be wanting to expand these programs if they afre thinking that way yet they want those to. Why not just bring back the sweatshops better yet chaingangs.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Yep, food stamp usage is on the rise. That's a price we are paying for poor wages across the country and the lack of good jobs coming back.

    Unfortunately, so far in this recovery, the vast majority of new jobs have been low wage.
    I am making more than I have ever made as many who really want work are. Am I in the career I went to school for, no. Do I get to live in the same location for every career choice? no

    Those that are serious about working will find the work at the pay rates they need. Those that are not and have an easier path will take it.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I am making more than I have ever made as many who really want work are. Am I in the career I went to school for, no. Do I get to live in the same location for every career choice? no

    Those that are serious about working will find the work at the pay rates they need. Those that are not and have an easier path will take it.
    Same here. What does that have to do with anything?
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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Same here. What does that have to do with anything?
    the jobs are out there, your excuse for low wages means more food stamps makes little to no sense

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    How is he partying? He's taking a regular vacation, it just costs a lot of money to move any president anywhere. It cost that much for Bush to fly AF1.

    Military Pegs Hourly Air Force One Cost at $181G, as Obama Sets Travel Record | Fox News


    FactCheck.org : The Traveling President


    Yeah, presidents cost money.
    Clever to say how thrifty the Obama administration has been; note the difference in the annual average federal deficit (double from Bush under Obama) and federal spending as percentage of GDP (up 20% over that of Bush under Obama - difference between 2007 and 2009 - and maintianed in every following year of Obama). I never said that Obama spent more on travel, but that is a "side benefit" of playing president, the job of president is leading the running of the country, that is where Obama fails. Looking, sounding and acting like a leader is one thing; actually doing the leading, and getting positive results, is quite another.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Clever to say how thrifty the Obama administration has been; note the difference in the annual average federal deficit (double from Bush under Obama) and federal spending as percentage of GDP (up 20% over that of Bush under Obama - difference between 2007 and 2009 - and maintianed in every following year of Obama). I never said that Obama spent more on travel, but that is a "side benefit" of playing president, the job of president is leading the running of the country, that is where Obama fails. Looking, sounding and acting like a leader is one thing; actually doing the leading, and getting results, is quite another.
    Look, if you want to argue the debt, I am sure there are a million threads we can go toe to toe on. This is about how Obama is taking a 4 million dollar vacation, and I'm just trying to point out that this more conservative talk radio talking point bull****.
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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    the jobs are out there, your excuse for low wages means more food stamps makes little to no sense
    What jobs? It's pretty much an accepted fact that most of the news jobs in the country are low-wage jobs.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/31/bu...udy-finds.html

    I got lucky and found a good one. Apparently so did you. I guess the difference between you and I is that I am not so arrogant that it makes me think I'm better than someone who can't.
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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    How is he partying? He's taking a regular vacation, it just costs a lot of money to move any president anywhere. It cost that much for Bush to fly AF1.

    Military Pegs Hourly Air Force One Cost at $181G, as Obama Sets Travel Record | Fox News


    FactCheck.org : The Traveling President


    Yeah, presidents cost money.
    They can vacation at Camp David, like many presidential predecessors did, and the many employees in his entourage would have been closer to their families over the holidays.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    What jobs? It's pretty much an accepted fact that most of the news jobs in the country are low-wage jobs.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/31/bu...udy-finds.html

    I got lucky and found a good one. Apparently so did you. I guess the difference between you and I is that I am not so arrogant that it makes me think I'm better than someone who can't.
    New York Times- At least you admit to being brainwashed

    There are safety jobs, environmental jobs, various engineering jobs, anyone that really wants one can find one

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Unemployment remained higher that any of Bush years and only saw a dip around the holidays- number 1 fail
    MONTHLY JOB LOSSES
    bikini_Mar_2011.jpg

    By the way, as virtually all of the public and private sector analyses of ARRA concluded, there were more than three million jobs in the economy at the end of 2010 that would not have been there had it not been for the stimulus bill. At their peak, the 90,000 infrastructure projects alone were providing jobs and paychecks to more than 750,000 Americans.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Did he really assist the most impacted? He gave away unemployment benefits and upped disability rolls, what did he do for the taxpayers, Nothing- number 2 -failed
    Who do you think food stamp and COBRA benefits went to? Unemployment benefits are meanwhile set by the states. All Obama did was create and fund the federal tiers of emergency extended unemployment benefits.

    Which standards for any federal disability program do you think were changed? Are you sure that the jobs disabled people had been doing weren't preferentially among those eliminated?

    And of course 37% of ARRA -- more than $290 billion -- went to tax cuts, including about $240 billion that went directly to individuals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Number 3- failed no explanation needed
    Yes, there is an explanation needed since some $26 billion went into science and health over two years. Maybe track down a few of those projects and report back on how they are doing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Number 4- asphalt and concrete at all time lows- fail
    More than 90,000 infratsructure projects were completed providing more than 750,000 jobs at the peak. There were projects near you no matter where you live. Well, maybe not on the moon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Number 5- State and local budgets in the red - Fail
    States received $140 billion in budget support. This was fast-acting pain relief and preserved the jobs of thousands while allowing key state services to continue. Had Republicans been a smarter bunch, they would have renewed a good part of this aid in 2011. Instead, their takeover of the House turned into its own little mini-recession.
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