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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    That depends. Do you blame the president for signing the bills or the house and senate for creating them?
    Who created Obamacare? Whose decision was it to but or support various private companies? To pass a $800 billion stimulus?

    Has the Left finally stopped blaming George Bush and is now attaching blame to the Senate and House instead? Meanwhile the mouse that roared remains perfect.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I didn't realize Obama was doing such a great job. $1,000,000,000,000 plus in annual debt is no big deal then. it's normal. So is the interest on that debt normal.
    No, the interest is actually much lower than normal, thanks again to the Great Bush Recession. And seemingly high deficits are in fact the norm in times of national crisis. The only reason that we have them is the utter economic incompetence of George W Bush. As the saying goes, Bush ran large budget deficits when he had no reason. Obama ran large budget deficits when he had no choice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Borrowing money and printing money seems like a good way to continued growth and prosperity for everyone then. It's amazing that no one else has thought of this before..
    Dude, debt and the money supply have been expanding since your great-granddaddy's day at the least. The moreso suring times of national crisis.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    yes, Several years of Obama and its still the fault of George Bush. Rinse and repeat.
    Magic Wand Theory has no place in the debate. When a cleanup in Aisle-5 is required, a new shopper does not become responsible for the mess every ten minutes. Whichever one dropped the mayonnaise jar to begin with is responsibe in perpetuity. So it is with the idiot Bush.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I don't like the fact Obama is taking a 21 day vacation on the taxpayers dime.
    However long it ends up being, the Obamas will be paying for the vacation. The taxpayers will be paying to provide appropriate transportation, communications, and security as they are required to do by law.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I could understand a week, maybe 10 days but 3-weeks?
    Did the family take its usual summer vacation this year? Have you ever saved up vacation days? And how long is the scheduled Christmas Recess in Congress anyway?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    That is only 80 jobs that could be saved at 50k a year per job.
    There are costs involved in running a country. And of course these costs go directly to support the jobs of all the people up and down the chains of supply for everything that gets consumed. The economy of Martha's Vineyard took a heavy hit when the Obamas didn't show up as usual last August.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Of course in another thread progressives are attempting to label republicans "hypocrites"...
    You make it sound like there's just one. You all make your beds, then you don't want to lie in them.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Who created Obamacare?
    A broad array of stakeholders did. Including a lot of Republicans. As you'll recall, after the idiot recession and wars that Clown Boy started, the looming health care crisis was the #1 problem on the national agenda in 2008. Now, that's been addressed. Energy and immigration yet to go.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Whose decision was it to buy or support various private companies? To pass a $800 billion stimulus?
    Pretty much bipartisan there. TARP was Paulson's idea and the major Wall Street-related moves were all taken long before Obama was sworn in. Various of the Fed/Treasury facilities and the coordinated international response toward recovery were Obama's doing though.

    As for a stimulus bill, it was so obvious that one was needed that Republicans were pushing hard for one of their own. Nearly $500 billion worth of guess what...tax cuts for the rich and mega-corporations. You know, that seems to be their answer to everything. Amazing how that works out, isn't it? Bunch of useless one-trick ponies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Has the Left finally stopped blaming George Bush...
    That will happen at the same time that people stop blaming John Wilkes Booth for the assassination of Lincoln. Should I be wondering now if you have a "Booth Was Framed!!!" bumper-sticker?

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    However long it ends up being, the Obamas will be paying for the vacation. The taxpayers will be paying to provide appropriate transportation, communications, and security as they are required to do by law.


    Did the family take its usual summer vacation this year? Have you ever saved up vacation days? And how long is the scheduled Christmas Recess in Congress anyway?


    There are costs involved in running a country. And of course these costs go directly to support the jobs of all the people up and down the chains of supply for everything that gets consumed. The economy of Martha's Vineyard took a heavy hit when the Obamas didn't show up as usual last August.


    You make it sound like there's just one. You all make your beds, then you don't want to lie in them.
    The Obama's aren't paying for any of this "out of pocket."

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    Magic Wand Theory has no place in the debate. When a cleanup in Aisle-5 is required, a new shopper does not become responsible for the mess every ten minutes. Whichever one dropped the mayonnaise jar to begin with is responsibe in perpetuity. So it is with the idiot Bush.
    And your headstone will read. "This is the fault of George Bush"

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    The Obama's aren't paying for any of this "out of pocket."
    Sheesh! There are laws and policies that cover this. For ALL Presidents. The Obama's will reimburse the government for the commercial cost (i.e., what you or I would pay) of a round trip flight from Washington to Honolulu for each of the people who make the trip with the President/ They will also pay all of the costs for their lodging, food, shopping, entertainment, and other incidentals.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And your headstone will read. "This is the fault of George Bush"
    I doubt that, but Bush's might read, "God, a lot of stuff was my fault!" Why don't you just decide to own the fact of your mistake in having supported this colossal blunderer? THe history isn't going to change. He will forever and always be to blame for all of the things he actually did and didn't do that were terrible mistakes. And there is a long and expensive list of those. Frozen into the record of time for all eternity. None of it is ever going to go away.

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    Re: Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    No, the interest is actually much lower than normal, thanks again to the Great Bush Recession. And seemingly high deficits are in fact the norm in times of national crisis. The only reason that we have them is the utter economic incompetence of George W Bush. As the saying goes, Bush ran large budget deficits when he had no reason. Obama ran large budget deficits when he had no choice.
    He had plenty of choices, he chose to create a larger dependent base thus increasing the democratic base.

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