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    Obama to GOP: Iím done negotiating with myself

    Kinda looks like BO's learned from past mistakes.About time.


    Posted by Ezra Klein on November 29, 2012 at 6:31 pm


    <Republican aides are circulating their summary of the White Houseís opening bid on the fiscal cliff. Theyíre circulating it because they believe it fleshes out Speaker John Boehneríscomplaint that ďthe White House has to get serious.Ē Above all, theyíre circulating it because the president isnít offering them anything in his opening bid.>


    <Weíre seeing two things here. One is that the negotiations arenít going well. When one side begins leaking the other sideís proposals, thatís typically a bad sign. The other is that Republicans are frustrated at the new Obama theyíre facing: The Obama who refuses to negotiate with himself.>


    <If Republicans want to cut Medicare, let them propose the cuts. If they want to raise revenue through tax reform, let them identify the deductions. If they want deeper cuts in discretionary spending, let them settle on a number. And, above all, if they donít like the White Houseís preferred policies, let them propose their own.>

    Obama to GOP: I’m done negotiating with myself
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    Re: Obama to GOP: Iím done negotiating with myself

    I'll believe it when I see it.

    Obama loves to compromise at the expense of the American people.


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    Re: Obama to GOP: Iím done negotiating with myself

    Yep, Obama's "compromise" plan is 1.6 trillion in tax hikes over 10 years, complete elimination of the debt ceiling, with 0 spending cuts.

    Amazing.

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    Re: Obama to GOP: Iím done negotiating with myself

    I especially like this part of the article linked in the OP:

    The GOP is right: This isn’t a serious proposal.
    Why would you neglect to include this in your OP assertion?...
    "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure" - 2006 Senator Obama...leadership failure indeed!

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    Re: Obama to GOP: Iím done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Yep, Obama's "compromise" plan is 1.6 trillion in tax hikes over 10 years, complete elimination of the debt ceiling, with 0 spending cuts.

    Amazing.
    That number would have been about right if he woulda let the bush tax-cuts expire the last time.
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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    Re: Obama to GOP: Iím done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    I especially like this part of the article linked in the OP:



    Why would you neglect to include this in your OP assertion?...

    I had faith in your ability to snoop it out.At least in your ability to follow the link and read.
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    Re: Obama to GOP: Iím done negotiating with myself

    It's really time for the bull**** to end. Obama knows that we need to cut entitlement spending (among others) and the GOP knows that raising the tax rate for the wealthiest (by 3 %, OH MY) will bring in some much needed revenue. That happens and lookie here, both were right, and we can finally end this nonsense.
    Hail to the King baby!

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    Re: Obama to GOP: Iím done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    I had faith in your ability to snoop it out.At least in your ability to follow the link and read.
    Ah, so you intentionally mislead the readers by selectively including portions of the link to support your assertion…how ‘Fox News-ish’…
    "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure" - 2006 Senator Obama...leadership failure indeed!

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    Re: Obama to GOP: Iím done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Ah, so you intentionally mislead the readers by selectively including portions of the link to support your assertion…how ‘Fox News-ish’…
    And what assertion do you think i am supporting sherlock?
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    Re: Obama to GOP: Iím done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    That number would have been about right if he woulda let the bush tax-cuts expire the last time.
    Oh, and I forgot, not only did it not guarantee any spending cuts, it also called for real increases in spending. You can't make this **** up.

    White House Plan on Fiscal Crisis Draws G.O.P. Ire - NYTimes.com

    Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner presented the House speaker, John A. Boehner, a detailed proposal on Thursday to avert the year-end fiscal crisis with $1.6 trillion in tax increases over 10 years, $50 billion in immediate stimulus spending, home mortgage refinancing and a permanent end to Congressional control over statutory borrowing limits.

    The proposal, loaded with Democratic priorities and short on detailed spending cuts, met strong Republican resistance. In exchange for locking in the $1.6 trillion in added revenues, President Obama embraced the goal of finding $400 billion in savings from Medicare and other social programs to be worked out next year, with no guarantees.
    Wow.

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