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    Re: Obama to GOP: Im done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    ROFL, I have to admit, given my entire time on this board I have yet to be called a Republican court apologist, so thanks for that. Its clear you don't know me nor my views on things to erroneously peg me as that.

    No, I'm simply pointing out that the Dems proposing tax increases and agreeing to only the GOP sacred cow spending cuts is not working together to solve the problem nor is it bi-partisnship.

    It's clear you are quite paritsan in that you think compromise is the GOP should sacrifice both tax increases and spending cuts to the GOP sacred cows yet the Dems shouldn't have to cut spending to any of their sacred cows.
    The Republicans ought to feel lucky that they're getting cuts anywhere from the Democrats. They wouldn't in a parliamentary system.
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    We beat someone into submission in 2002?


    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    I was actually thinking America in 2002.

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    Re: Obama to GOP: Im done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    The Republicans ought to feel lucky that they're getting cuts anywhere from the Democrats. They wouldn't in a parliamentary system.
    Well there is no reasoning with you as you somehow believe the GOP having to sacrifice tax increases and spending cuts in the GOP sacred cows is working together while the Dems have to sacrifice nothing. Have a nice day!

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    Re: Obama to GOP: Im done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Again, the Republicans haven't proposed anything.
    No, that's not correct. They have passed several proposals through the House, and then there's the Simpson Bowles plan.

    There are several proposals on the table. The President needs to indicate what he will support.

    Our Lord and Savior Barack Obama is not a serious leader. He won his election, but so did each and every Republican in the House. House Republicans have to have something substancial in the way of spending cuts to show their constituents if they agree to vote for tax increases. Otherwise they should walk away and get the spending cuts that way. Then they should deny a debt ceiling increase and force a shut down. In other words, spending cuts one way or another. Liberals are convinced that Republicans would pay a price for that. I'm convinced that this would not be the case, except in terms of bad press.

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    Re: Obama to GOP: Im done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    A good example of taxing the rich and how it will pay for federal expenses.

    Bill Whittle - Taxes can't Solve the Deficit (Mathimatically Impossible) - YouTube

    Exactly. That's why we have to find a way to increase the amount of taxes the burger flippers pay.

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    Re: Obama to GOP: Im done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    I reiterate: for four years you people have acted like petulant children. No more. The time has come to take you to the woodshed for your lashing.
    Continuing to avoid your fallacious assertion I see...confused on who needs the lashing...
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    Re: Obama to GOP: Im done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Yep, Obama's "compromise" plan is 1.6 trillion in tax hikes over 10 years, complete elimination of the debt ceiling, with 0 spending cuts.

    Amazing.
    Yes that is amazing, however for a liberal it's really not, liberals love taking more of your hard earned money, and when that's not enough they borrow it. Liberals are all about tax, borrow, spend, and freebees

    What we have here is a liberal left wing party that does not want to cut any spending, and be damned the rise in the national debt vs a party trying to keep the ship from sinking. What is really amazing is Obama and his liberal clan could care less when the ship sinks.
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    Re: Obama to GOP: Im done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Also? Thanks for reposting precisely the passage included in the OP. That will help


    Considering this:

    Why would the GOP be offering a proposal?...they lost, as you stated. Does it seem logical for the loser to dictate his terms for loss?

    You wonown it!
    Then they need to vote for Obama's proposal......otherwise they need to make a counteroffer. That's how negotiations work, I guess Republicans think saying NO is negotiating.

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    Re: Obama to GOP: Im done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Yes that is amazing, however for a liberal it's really not, liberals love taking more of your hard earned money, and when that's not enough they borrow it. Liberals are all about tax, borrow, spend, and freebees

    What we have here is a liberal left wing party that does not want to cut any spending, and be damned the rise in the national debt vs a party trying to keep the ship from sinking. What is really amazing is Obama and his liberal clan could care less when the ship sinks.
    No Republican administration has cut the deficit since Eisenhower. Saying no to everything Obama wants is all they are doing. THey have no clue how to cut spending.

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    Re: Obama to GOP: Im done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Yes that is amazing, however for a liberal it's really not, liberals love taking more of your hard earned money, and when that's not enough they borrow it. Liberals are all about tax, borrow, spend, and freebees

    What we have here is a liberal left wing party that does not want to cut any spending, and be damned the rise in the national debt vs a party trying to keep the ship from sinking. What is really amazing is Obama and his liberal clan could care less when the ship sinks.
    I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that national debt just started with Obama. Previous GOP presidents have FAILED to reduce the debt as well. Yet you blame liberals for all the debt woes.

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