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    Re: Obama to GOP: Im done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    And in the process hurt the country even more, probably beyond repair. But as long as your revenge is satisfied right?
    It's very easy to pretend to be a high-minded paragon of morality when you're on the side of the lash.

    The solution to this problem - the only long-term, structural solution to this problem - is a combination of tax cuts and spending increases. The Democrats have accepted the former, with reservation. The Republicans are still cowing about the latter. They must be beaten into submission.
    I dip my forefinger in the watery blood of your impotent mad-redeemer (your Divine Democrat your Hebrew Madman) and write over his thorn-torn brow, The true prince of Evil the king of the Slaves!
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    Re: Obama to GOP: Im done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    You cannot simply tax us out of debt either. Again, BOTH sides have to solve the issue.
    Again: the Democrats have already agreed to spending cuts.
    The Republicans will never agree to tax increases until they are made to.
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    Re: Obama to GOP: Im done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    It's very easy to pretend to be a high-minded paragon of morality when you're on the side of the lash.
    I'm not on the side of the lash, I'm on the side that wants this country out of debt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    The solution to this problem - the only long-term, structural solution to this problem - is a combination of tax cuts and spending increases. The Democrats have accepted the former, with reservation. The Republicans are still cowing about the latter. They must be beaten into submission.
    I'm assuming you meant spending "decreases" instead of increases. And what pray tell are the spending cuts the Dems have agreed to? The GOP provided some and the Dems demonized them for it as "killing big bird" for one example. How is the Dems demonizing any cuts the GOP proposed helping?

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    Re: Obama to GOP: Im done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Again: the Democrats have already agreed to spending cuts.
    The Republicans will never agree to tax increases until they are made to.
    Which spending cuts have the Dems agreed to?

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    Re: Obama to GOP: Im done negotiating with myself

    Ah feels like 1930's Germany all over again doesn't it?


    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    It's very easy to pretend to be a high-minded paragon of morality when you're on the side of the lash.

    The solution to this problem - the only long-term, structural solution to this problem - is a combination of tax cuts and spending increases. The Democrats have accepted the former, with reservation. The Republicans are still cowing about the latter. They must be beaten into submission.

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    Re: Obama to GOP: Im done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I'm assuming you meant spending "decreases" instead of increases. And what pray tell are the spending cuts the Dems have agreed to? The GOP provided some and the Dems demonized them for it as "killing big bird" for one example. How is the Dems demonizing any cuts the GOP proposed helping?
    They agreed to defense cuts, which the Republicans immediately rejected, as defense is a sacred cow (and you'll doubtless defend them on that, in your role as Republican court apologist). They agreed on infrastructural cuts in Erskine-Bowles, but because it wasn't exactly what the Republicans wanted, Boehner torpedoed it.

    Oh, but the poor, victimized GOP!
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    Re: Obama to GOP: Im done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Ah feels like 1930's Germany all over again doesn't it?

    I was actually thinking America in 2002.
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    Re: Obama to GOP: Im done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    They agreed to defense cuts, which the Republicans immediately rejected, as defense is a sacred cow (and you'll doubtless defend them on that, in your role as Republican court apologist). They agreed on infrastructural cuts in Erskine-Bowles, but because it wasn't exactly what the Republicans wanted, Boehner torpedoed it.

    Oh, but the poor, victimized GOP!

    ROFL, I have to admit, given my entire time on this board I have yet to be called a Republican court apologist, so thanks for that. Its clear you don't know me nor my views on things to erroneously peg me as that.

    No, I'm simply pointing out that the Dems proposing tax increases and agreeing to only the GOP sacred cow spending cuts is not working together to solve the problem nor is it bi-partisnship.

    It's clear you are quite paritsan in that you think compromise is the GOP should sacrifice both tax increases and spending cuts to the GOP sacred cows yet the Dems shouldn't have to cut spending to any of their sacred cows.

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    Re: Obama to GOP: Im done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Horse crap. many of the entitlements are NOT Paid for. Especially not by those who are receiving them.
    Such as?

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    Re: Obama to GOP: Im done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by JRog View Post
    Such as?
    what does the average working pay into social security, medicare and medicaid vs what they take out?

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