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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Most of them are seniors and servicemen? Do you have a link for that?

    It is the old leftist story that unless the US continues to spend in excess of $1,000,000,000,000 every year of money it doesn't have then seniors and servicemen and women will be turned out on the streets.

    Instead of just printing money or shuffling money from one government department to another, why not raise the annual deficit to $3,000,000,000,000 or more? You know it's never going to be paid back anyway. Why not just go as far as you can and see what happens? You can call it the ongoing stimulus plan.

    It's A Myth That 47% Of Americans Pay No Taxes, In Truth 86% Pay Taxes

    I don't know what you are talking about above. What I know is by letting the tax cuts for the wealthy expire will mean there will be enough revenue to repay the money that was borrowed from SS.
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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It's A Myth That 47% Of Americans Pay No Taxes, In Truth 86% Pay Taxes

    I don't know what you are talking about above. What I know is by letting the tax cuts for the wealthy expire will mean there will be enough revenue to repay the money that was borrowed from SS.

    They are confusing federal taxes with other taxes and claim 2009 was an anomaly because of the unusual amount of unemployment..

    They also claim that "Barack Obama signed the largest tax cut in US history", despite the Big Owe and his followers referring to them, as "The Bush tax cuts".

    It's quite a comical read if you take the time.

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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    They are confusing federal taxes with other taxes and claim 2009 was an anomaly because of the unusual amount of unemployment..

    They also claim that "Barack Obama signed the largest tax cut in US history", despite the Big Owe and his followers referring to them, as "The Bush tax cuts".

    It's quite a comical read if you take the time.
    FICA Taxes are federal taxes. They in fact make up as large a share as FIT.

    Apparently the majority of the country did not find it as humorous as you did.
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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    FICA Taxes are federal income. They in fact make up as large a share as FIT.

    Apparently the majority of the country did not find it as humorous as you did.
    The majority of the country read that article?

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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The majority of the country read that article?
    The majority of the country didn't need to read that article to know that most of country's wealth is concentrated at the top.
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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The majority of the country didn't need to read that article to know that most of country's wealth is concentrated at the top.
    Yes, i think we would agree that most of the country's wealth is not concentrated at the bottom.

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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, i think we would agree that most of the country's wealth is not concentrated at the bottom.
    Indeed.

    Half Of American Households Hold 1 Percent Of Wealth

    Which is why we can no longer afford to give tax cuts to the wealthy.
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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Indeed.

    Half Of American Households Hold 1 Percent Of Wealth

    Which is why we can no longer afford to give tax cuts to the wealthy.
    Now wealth...you are aware FIT AND FICA are applied based on INCOME not wealth right?
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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Now wealth...you are aware FIT AND FICA are applied based on INCOME not wealth right?

    Ah, you choose to ignore wealth inequality. Very well, let's look at income inequality:

    "Income inequality has soared to the highest levels since the Great Depression and the recession has done little to reverse the trend, with the top 1 percent of earners taking 93 percent of the income gains in the first full year of the recovery, The New York Times reported in October 2012."

    Income Inequality News - The New York Times
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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Ah, you choose to ignore wealth inequality. Very well, let's look at income inequality:

    "Income inequality has soared to the highest levels since the Great Depression and the recession has done little to reverse the trend, with the top 1 percent of earners taking 93 percent of the income gains in the first full year of the recovery, The New York Times reported in October 2012."

    Income Inequality News - The New York Times
    Ok, so there is a wealth equality gap AND an income equality gap, always has been always will be. How does this prove that those who are NOT at the top of the income scale cannot afford to pay more taxes? And more importantly why should they not? While you can argue they are not benefiting as much as a high earner they ARE benefiting some...and they should pay for this...and since the cost is/has been going up they should pay some more for their 'fair share'...
    "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure" - 2006 Senator Obama...leadership failure indeed!

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