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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The Senate already passed renewal of the middle class tax cuts. I posted a link earlier. It just has to be passed in the House and signed by the President.
    That is all well and good except for the fact that it is Unconstitional: "All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills."--Article I, Section 7.

    I don't want the House voting on Cabinet appointments and I don't want the Senate originating revenue bills.

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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Well if you can explain to me why people voted back into power the majority of people in congress be my guest. Or how about why they just reelected a person that thinks he has license to kill any American he sees fit or to jail for however long he desires. Go ahead and explain that to me. You might find that its a task that takes a great deal of effort.

    While your at it you might need to explain why they are against the patriot act and just reelected a man that not only extended it but expanded it. See, the American people are either illogical or idiots. You can pick.
    I must admit I do like this Republican tendancy to claim the reason they lose elections is because the voters are stupid. It's proven to be a winning strategy in the past and I, for one, hope you perservere with it.
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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    The part where your first sentence requested something from 双range tan着then in the SECOND sentence requested a proposal from a Republicanwhich I furnished 糎hat is it about that that you don't understand?

    I would like to hear the same SPECIFICS from Obamabut I知 sure we neither will get to hear this.



    NOW you have revealed your true colors樽y way or the highway...nice compromise technique...

    BTW, Republicans held the majority in the House...consequences indeed
    You didn't realize that elections have consequences? Sorry you didn't know that. If there was one thing Obama was perfectly clear on during the campaign, it was that those making more than a quarter of a million dollars a year were going to pay more taxes. Nobody could have been in any doubt about that. And it turns out that more people agreed with that sentiment -60% - than even voted for him.

    There will be no agreement that does not include allowing the tax cuts for the top 2% to expire. Period. If the Republicans want to go over the cliff for the very wealthy, lead on.
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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If we had "plenty" of revenue, there would be no need to cut services for seniors and the middle class.
    We HAD plenty of revenue, until the government found 100 more pet projects to use that revenue on (including lining their pockets). Then they just took out the AMEX for those services you speak of.

    If we give them more money, they'll spend it on even more dependency projects. Then, they'll raise the rates again...and again...and again.

    This is what Europe did. Look at them now.

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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    I must admit I do like this Republican tendancy to claim the reason they lose elections is because the voters are stupid. It's proven to be a winning strategy in the past and I, for one, hope you perservere with it.
    There have always been more losers in this country than winners. But, the losers used to aspire to be winners, and they felt shame in their failures. Not anymore. Pride, self-esteem, integrity, accountability....those are lost qualities on more than half this country.

    So you'll be winning most of the elections from now on. Socialism looks great to losers because it makes excuses for them and doesn't require they change their ways.

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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    We HAD plenty of revenue, until the government found 100 more pet projects to use that revenue on (including lining their pockets). Then they just took out the AMEX for those services you speak of.

    If we give them more money, they'll spend it on even more dependency projects. Then, they'll raise the rates again...and again...and again.

    This is what Europe did. Look at them now.
    I think it highlights a serious problem in our Government. We have little accountability over where the money is going. It seems that we have the big picture down (to some degree), but after that, it seems to be lost in the sauce.

    I find it hard to support new revenue when we can't justify how we spent the last revenue.
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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    There have always been more losers in this country than winners. But, the losers used to aspire to be winners, and they felt shame in their failures. Not anymore. Pride, self-esteem, integrity, accountability....those are lost qualities on more than half this country.

    So you'll be winning most of the elections from now on. Socialism looks great to losers because it makes excuses for them and doesn't require they change their ways.
    More, please! I love this stuff.
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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    More, please! I love this stuff.
    Sorry, I'm busy paying your taxes for you.

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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    That is all well and good except for the fact that it is Unconstitional
    You'll have to take that up with the Supreme Court. Fortunately, anonymous political forum posters don't get to make that call.
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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Sorry, I'm busy paying your taxes for you.
    Actually, no - you aren't. I live in a blue state - you know, one of those that actually pays more taxes than they receive in federal money. Unlike most of the red states, who suck up all they can get at the Federal trough (my taxes) while whining about how much taxes they pay.

    But keep up that losers/winners stuff. Throw in the 47% now and again. We love it.
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