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    Re: Obama to GOP: Iím done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Elaborate

    You're dodging .... hahaha

    Explain how it works smart guy

    Effective tax rates are what is payed after deductions and loopholes.
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    Re: Obama to GOP: Iím done negotiating with myself

    Obama:
    "Give me everythig I want and -I- willl let you vote it into law. Sounds fair to me, so it must be fair."

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    Re: Obama to GOP: Iím done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yes, the poll results showed majority support for increasing taxes for the wealthy - "73 percent of Democrats and 63 percent of independents are in favor, far fewer Republicans, 39 percent, agree."
    Look man how old are you? Seriously?

    Do I need to cite the Politico poll again that refutes your strawman. ONLY raising taxes on the wealthy has only 5% support among Obama voters. The majority of Independents and Republicans do not favor taxing the wealthy either and certainly not as the only solution. On the contrary, the majority want spending cuts.

    Poll: President Obama voters split on deficit - POLITICO.com Print View

    Yet 41 percent who supported the Democratic incumbent want to get control of the deficit mostly by cutting spending, with only some tax increases, while another 41 percent want to solve it mostly with tax increases and only some spending cuts.

    Just 5 percent of Obama supporters favor tax increases alone to solve the deficit, half the number who back an approach that relies entirely on spending cuts.
    Oh and the majority of Independents and Americans do not like Obamacare, which is the largest tax increase on the poor and middle class in history

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/doc...hCare_1126.pdf

    So you would be in favor of repealing Obamacare right since the majority want it repealed? That's your emotional argument in regards to tax hikes. Does the same rationality apply to Obamacare?

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    Re: Obama to GOP: Iím done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Senate Republican plans are meaningless, as are articles in the National Review. I want to see what Orange tan and the rest of his party are willing to offer up.
    So when you said this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Then let's hear something from Orange tan. Let's hear a Republican proposal. Not the Mittens kind, which has nothing specific in it but a real proposal, with real cuts.
    You didnít really mean ĎLet's hear a Republican proposal'ÖSince Corker IS a Republican how does he not qualify? And since one of the links was DIRECTLY to Corkerís website that didnít justify your purview or commentÖsomehow I believe that WHATEVER was furnished would not satisfy as all you want to do is 'and whine a lot'.

    I guess I should not expect:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    ... ANY other that has been 1)written and 2)scored by EITHER Democrats OR Republicans...
    And now YOU...'How about showing some guts?'
    Thanks for your participationÖ
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    Re: Obama to GOP: Iím done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Trickle down economics was a failed experiment and the people have rejected it.
    This statement needs to be repeated!

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    Re: Obama to GOP: Iím done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    As documented above, history shows those of us interested in looking at it, that the effective tax rates for the wealthy were higher than anything being proposed today.

    Trickle down economics was a failed experiment and the people have rejected it.
    History also shows that parroting that the rates were higher has no effect on what people paid nor does it have any effect on why they were lowered. Learn to read the entire book instead of just the parts you want to notice.

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    Re: Obama to GOP: Iím done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    But not the democrats that have only talked about tax increases for the rich and by all accounts and purposes have been completely uninterested in the process? I never did understand the American people but it seems as time goes on they are making less sense.
    In not understanding the American people, you have much in common with the Republican party. They stupidly thought they could give Obama the same 'plan' they gave him before the election, in spite of the fact that - wait for it - we actually had an election! And 60% of the American people agree with the President regarding tax breaks for the super rich.
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    Re: Obama to GOP: Iím done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Look man how old are you? Seriously?

    Do I need to cite the Politico poll again that refutes your strawman. ONLY raising taxes on the wealthy has only 5% support among Obama voters. The majority of Independents and Republicans do not favor taxing the wealthy either and certainly not as the only solution. On the contrary, the majority want spending cuts.

    Poll: President Obama voters split on deficit - POLITICO.com Print View



    Oh and the majority of Independents and Americans do not like Obamacare, which is the largest tax increase on the poor and middle class in history

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/doc...hCare_1126.pdf

    So you would be in favor of repealing Obamacare right since the majority want it repealed? That's your emotional argument in regards to tax hikes. Does the same rationality apply to Obamacare?


    You are funny! LOL! Talk about strawman! No one is proposing only increasing revenue.
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    Re: Obama to GOP: Iím done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Effective tax rates are what is payed after deductions and loopholes.
    Wow how embarrassing. You fail spectacularly. As I stated in a previous post, much of the compensation that was earned during those years you keep championing was not considered taxable income.

    Earned Income and taxable income are two entirely different things when it comes to the Government.

    Class dismissed

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You are funny! LOL! Talk about strawman! No one is proposing only increasing revenue.
    Increasing revenue how? There are many ways to accomplish that. The most efficient and effective way, as well as the most beneficial way is ECONOMIC GROWTH.

    So come on genius. Tell us what you predict GDP Growth will be once we tax small businesses and the evil rich? It's 1.3% right now. What's it going to be Mr. Krugman?

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    Re: Obama to GOP: Iím done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    In not understanding the American people, you have much in common with the Republican party. They stupidly thought they could give Obama the same 'plan' they gave him before the election, in spite of the fact that - wait for it - we actually had an election! And 60% of the American people agree with the President regarding tax breaks for the super rich.
    Liberals are perhaps the most fun people on the planet. I mention something and in response they change the topic and I'm sure they are not even aware of it. How often does this happen in these debates I wonder?

    What did the rich people say about their OWN money?

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