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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    The tax increases are going to happen either way. Because the tax cuts, not just the bush tax cuts but the other too, will end on the 1st of jan. And that is the fiscal cliff. Because the tax increase will increase on EVERYBODY.

    So. Obama will get his way, at least some of it. If the republicans are serious about helping the american people, they should negotiate with Obama.

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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    The tax increases are going to happen either way. Because the tax cuts, not just the bush tax cuts but the other too, will end on the 1st of jan. And that is the fiscal cliff. Because the tax increase will increase on EVERYBODY.

    So. Obama will get his way, at least some of it. If the republicans are serious about helping the american people, they should negotiate with Obama.
    Well said. if the GOP chooses to let the middle class tax cuts expire to protect the tax cuts for the wealthy, they will pay a dear price in 2014.
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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    He presented a plan. The Republicans laughed at it. It's now their serve.
    As we should have.

    How are we supposed to continue creating jobs if we don't have another tax cut?

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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    The tax increases are going to happen either way. Because the tax cuts, not just the bush tax cuts but the other too, will end on the 1st of jan. And that is the fiscal cliff. Because the tax increase will increase on EVERYBODY.

    So. Obama will get his way, at least some of it. If the republicans are serious about helping the american people, they should negotiate with Obama.
    So basically the republicans have to act in order to get Obama to do the right thing.

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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Well said. if the GOP chooses to let the middle class tax cuts expire to protect the tax cuts for the wealthy, they will pay a dear price in 2014.
    Eh.. no... because the rich will get a tax increase when the tax cuts expire.

    It is not the GOP who chooses anything. It needs to be a bipartisan agreement. That means that both parties are choosing not to be reasonable at the expense of the american people. This is nothing new because they have been this way for a long time. And the american people have voted for the same people to be in Congress this time around. Well, a few less republican senators and a few more representative republicans. Anyway. Nothing changed.

    Also, Obama struck down the 2.2 Trillion spending cut + revenue increase plan the republicans put forward. So I guess they're both even on being unreasonable. Now its time to pull together, talk sense and make compromises.

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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So basically the republicans have to act in order to get Obama to do the right thing.
    See. one statement. 2 interpretations.

    No, I posted a comment to detail how I see things. It is just above. Post #155.

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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So basically the republicans have to act in order to get Obama to do the right thing.
    The Republicans have to act to renew the tax cuts for the middle class, or lose control of the House in 2014.
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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Bottom line: We have PLENTY of revenue already, and this tax increase will only add to the amount of wasteful spending in Washington. It won't go to the debt because it never does.

    We have a spending problem only. Not a revenue problem. Unless, of course, you have dependent citizens that you need to keep dependent.

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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Well said. if the GOP chooses to let the middle class tax cuts expire to protect the tax cuts for the wealthy, they will pay a dear price in 2014.
    But not the democrats that have only talked about tax increases for the rich and by all accounts and purposes have been completely uninterested in the process? I never did understand the American people but it seems as time goes on they are making less sense.

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    Re: Obama to GOP: I知 done negotiating with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Bottom line: We have PLENTY of revenue already, and this tax increase will only add to the amount of wasteful spending in Washington. It won't go to the debt because it never does.

    We have a spending problem only. Not a revenue problem. Unless, of course, you have dependent citizens that you need to keep dependent.
    Pretty much. The idea that the revenue from tax increases will go to debt is ignorance at its finest.

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