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    Re: Senators Make Bid To End Indefinite Detention In NDAA

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    i voted bush in 08 as being the lesser of 2 evils,but both then and now i opposed the patriot act,infact in my little cowboy town in cali many republicans overnight switched to libertarians after the patriot act was passed.the ndaa took the patriot act to much more illegal levels.

    the government had the right to increase security,but not the right to take away others rights granted by the constitution to do it.prior to using unwarranted wiretaps,the govt used a massive computer network that didnt record conversations,but instead keyed in on certain words or phrases said.is enough combinations came through to be concern,the fbi would gain a warrantto wiretap and record conversations,now we simply bypass the warrant step.
    Same thing happened in where I live. Libertarians were just ex-conservatives once the Patriot Act was passed. We need the government to trust us as long as we aren't doing anything wrong.

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    Re: Senators Make Bid To End Indefinite Detention In NDAA

    To put these sorts of events in perspective, you have to look way beyond your town or a particular moment in time.

    If you no longer have a common culture, everyone is suspect. Bush was the most nauseating sort of liberal globalist, as were his father and grandfather, but the fact remains that Obama actually believes that he is more than just a useful idiot in the globalist movement and he therefore is not going to change anything Bush has done. Obama's job is to advance the destruction of the American culture.
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    Re: Senators Make Bid To End Indefinite Detention In NDAA

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    George W. Bush said it best:

    You're either with us or against us.
    So, you're against the constitution.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Senators Make Bid To End Indefinite Detention In NDAA

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    I think the fact that we still, to this day, constantly question whether the terrorists have won or not is rather comical. The NDAA exists as a sign that the terrorists have won in some way.

    Maybe Obama can get it through his thick skull that this **** is bad for us.
    Good point. And it raises the question of just who the real terrorists are? Those domestic enemies of the Constitution who pass and enforce laws that contradict it, or goat herders in Pakistan or Yemen?

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    Re: Senators Make Bid To End Indefinite Detention In NDAA

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    George W. Bush said it best:

    You're either with us or against us.
    The problem with Bush was that he couldnt tell the difference between the Devil and little baby Jesus

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    Re: Senators Make Bid To End Indefinite Detention In NDAA

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    To put these sorts of events in perspective, you have to look way beyond your town or a particular moment in time.

    If you no longer have a common culture, everyone is suspect. Bush was the most nauseating sort of liberal globalist, as were his father and grandfather, but the fact remains that Obama actually believes that he is more than just a useful idiot in the globalist movement and he therefore is not going to change anything Bush has done. Obama's job is to advance the destruction of the American culture.
    It sure does appear that way, yessir.

    In style of governance, Obama is like Bush on steroids. IMO he is more white than he is black because he ain't got no soul, as they used to say. He's shooting up innocents all over Asia and Africa, and does not have enough conscience to make himself stop, much less soul to make him stop. He's like a white boy that never served in the military, and thereby is a bit of a virgin, whether he knows that or not.

    I voted for Gary Johnson.

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    Re: Senators Make Bid To End Indefinite Detention In NDAA

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    Bush administration and the Taliban vs. the Constitution?
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