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    Now sick babies go on death pathway: Doctor's haunting testimony reveals how children

    Now sick babies go on death pathway: Doctor's haunting testimony reveals how children are put on end-of-life plan | Mail Online

    Until now, end of life regime the Liverpool Care Pathway was thought to have involved only elderly and terminally-ill adults.

    But the Mail can reveal the practice of withdrawing food and fluid by tube is being used on young patients as well as severely disabled newborn babies.
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    Re: UK Baby Death Panels: IPAB Here We Come

    Do you think we should keep severly disabled terminal patients alive at all cost? There have been many studies that suggest withdrawing IVF reduces misery while facing the inevitable at the end of life. This article is cruel to babies and parents who have to make a heart wrenching decision at a terrible time.
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    Re: UK Baby Death Panels: IPAB Here We Come

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Do you think we should keep severly disabled terminal patients alive at all cost? There have been many studies that suggest withdrawing IVF reduces misery while facing the inevitable at the end of life. This article is cruel to babies and parents who have to make a heart wrenching decision at a terrible time.
    Did you read the article?

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    Re: UK Baby Death Panels: IPAB Here We Come

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    The cruel fact of the matter is that a good number of seriously premature babies are very costly- for life, not just for the time they spend in the NICU, and what it amounts to is that our technology has surpassed our ability to pay for it. No doubt it's very sad, but when you're paying for a national health system, money WILL become an issue. The same thing will happen here, eventually, especially now that we are going to add more health care costs onto the taxpayers' backs.
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    Yes. Did you?
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    Did you read the article?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    The cruel fact of the matter is that a good number of seriously premature babies are very costly- for life, not just for the time they spend in the NICU, and what it amounts to is that our technology has surpassed our ability to pay for it. No doubt it's very sad, but when you're paying for a national health system, money WILL become an issue. The same thing will happen here, eventually, especially now that we are going to add more health care costs onto the taxpayers' backs.
    The same thing already does happen here. Insurance companies do have limits on payouts, and god forbid what choices a person without insurance has to make here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRog View Post
    The same thing already does happen here. Insurance companies do have limits on payouts, and god forbid what choices a person without insurance has to make here.
    Insurance companies have to have limits. This is one of the few things that helps contain costs. No matter what anyone wants to believe, there is no right to have unlimited healthcare, and sometimes, the costs outweigh the benefit.
    Sorry, but when you're costing the system unlimited funds, and you'll never live a meaningful life, it's money going down the drain, regardless of how you feel about it.
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    Re: UK Baby Death Panels: IPAB Here We Come

    That is not it at all. If you dont work in healthcare you dont think about such things but...Many times the most cruel thing in the world you can do is feed and hydrate someone by artificial means who has no quality of life and will never have one. I am sure babies starve and dehydrate all the time in all hospitals that care for critical patients. It is horrible but it is not good medicine to drag out that horror. Hospices here in the US advocate discontinueing hydration at the end of life, many studies have indicated it decreases pain. Not talking about not giving them a drink, I mean not hydrating them by artificial means. This article is scarmongering. I was not aware there was a Brit Fox news.
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    Re: UK Baby Death Panels: IPAB Here We Come

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Insurance companies have to have limits. This is one of the few things that helps contain costs. No matter what anyone wants to believe, there is no right to have unlimited healthcare, and sometimes, the costs outweigh the benefit.
    Sorry, but when you're costing the system unlimited funds, and you'll never live a meaningful life, it's money going down the drain, regardless of how you feel about it.
    I'm not disagreeing with you, just stating that the UK system is no worse than the US system. The proverbial "death panels" exist in the US as well, only they're staffed by representatives of wealthy insurance company investors, and they stand to benefit financially from denying coverage. In the UK, at least personal profit of another person is not a factor in the decision to pull someone off of life support.

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