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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Would I get sued for preventing blacks from buying a home on my development?
    You and your property are not a church, conducting a church rite. The ceremony is a rite. The only reason they authorize clergy/church officials to sign the legal license is because it is convenient. It gives the government an official, that they can generally trust, who they don't have to pay to sign a legal document.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Steve, do you take Adam to be your lawfully wedded Person A?
    Adam, do you take Steve to be your lawfully wedded Person B?

    Still sounds discriminatory to me. Spouse "A" somehow comes off as superior to Spouse "B." I think the difference in terminology could have some real, substantive life effects.
    No one is required to read from the marriage license when conducting the ceremony. My own marriage license only says "bride" and "groom". Neither of those words were used in the actual words of our ceremony.

    The same could be said if the bride is listed first or the groom is listed first on the license. You are looking for something to complain about here.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    What church is banning a marriage based on identity?
    Mormons ban anyone who isn't Mormon from getting married in their church. In fact, the majority of churches wouldn't perform a wedding for a couple where at least one of them wasn't a member of the church.

    It's like the movie "My Big Fat Greek Wedding". He had to get baptized as Greek in order for them to get married in the Greek Orthodox Church.

    Interreligious Marriage and the Orthodox Church — Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America

    Note: "The non-Orthodox Christian partner needed to be baptized in the name of the Holy Trinity and in water." They will not wed a couple where both are not Greek Orthodox.

    There are many religions that will refuse to marry someone of another religion or no religion. That would be refusing to marry someone based on their religion.

    And yes, there are still churches in the South that refuse to wed couples because of their race or relative races.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Omgitsme View Post
    And who won? Also they are still allowed to discriminate against homosexuals and atheists.
    Not only this, but the boy scouts isn't actually a church rite, the marriage ceremony is.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not only this, but the boy scouts isn't actually a church rite, the marriage ceremony is.
    The problem with the boy scouts is their tax exempt status and receiving government funds. If they stopped doing both, noone would have a problem with what the boy scouts do and don't do.

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No one is required to read from the marriage license when conducting the ceremony. My own marriage license only says "bride" and "groom". Neither of those words were used in the actual words of our ceremony.
    Great! No reason to change it to Person A and Person B.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The same could be said if the bride is listed first or the groom is listed first on the license. You are looking for something to complain about here.
    Not looking to complain. Making fun of those that complain of such things.

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Not looking to complain. Making fun of those that complain of such things.
    Yet you are complaining about Person A and Person B. So, yeah, you are complaining about it. If not, why are you against changing it to reflect a more gender neutral document in light of gay marriage being legal in that state?

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor
    Not looking to complain. Making fun of those that complain of such things.
    Yet you are complaining about Person A and Person B. So, yeah, you are complaining about it. If not, why are you against changing it to reflect a more gender neutral document in light of gay marriage being legal in that state?
    Already answered that.

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Great! No reason to change it to Person A and Person B.
    It's also a good reason not to care if it does change. It makes no difference to those getting married, but it does make the clerk at the office who records those marriages' job easier because he/she doesn't have to worry about mistakes that make a man out of a bride or a woman out of a groom. They can simply not care about gender at all and just list the two people married.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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