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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    now you are flat out lying

    no it is not all factual you said it was "indistinguishable" not only is that not factual its laughable.

    by all means though again, when you have anything logical or factual to support your claim by all mean please provide.

    Yes i saw your sources they do NOTHING to make your statement factual or logical, nothing.
    I'm not lying but I appreciate the name calling, it always is the best way to solve disagreements (that was sarcasm). It's all there in the sources I'm saying the exact same thing that they do so maybe you are just misunderstanding or misreading my posts?
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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Except Rome fell AFTER Judeo-Christian values became influential. At that height of Roman power and for a very, very long there was NO Judeo-Christian values. So the FACTS prove you exactly wrong. Using your asserted cause-and-effect, Judeo-Christian values are the last thing America should have.
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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    yes i do disagree because thats not what is happening, its not changing
    When marriage in the US has traditionally been between a man and a woman and is now starting to be more inclusive that is a change.
    Last edited by Monserrat; 12-06-12 at 08:11 PM. Reason: wrong word
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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    This is the kind of stuff that predicated the fall of the Roman empire. Watch for the legalization of having sex with children next.
    You know, we actually know why the Roman empire fell. We don't have to make up stuff to figure it out.

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    I'm not lying but I appreciate the name calling, it always is the best way to solve disagreements (that was sarcasm). It's all there in the sources I'm saying the exact same thing that they do so maybe you are just misunderstanding or misreading my posts?
    yes you are 100% factually lying because you made that statement they were indistinguishable, that is NOT factual that is your opinion based on ZERO facts and ZERO logic lol. Nice try to deflect though and act like somebody called you a name or is disagree with you.

    We arent having a disagreement, i simply am pointing out your inaccurate statement you made and you are in denial of it.

    It weird i keep asking you for facts and logic to back up your claim and you cant do it, i wonder why?
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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    When marriage in the US has traditionally been between a man and a woman and is now starting to be more exclusive that is a change.
    no its not, why? because men and women can still marry eachother just like before, sorry you are simply wrong
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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    no its not, why? because men and women can still marry eachother just like before, sorry you are simply wrong
    Allowing gay people to marry makes marriage more inclusive, not exclusive. Just saying.

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Allowing gay people to marry makes marriage more inclusive, not exclusive. Just saying.
    this is very true i agree

    but her argument was people are fighting thins because they are worried about "traditional" marriage (which is simply a made up term and subjective) and they dont want it to change.

    THe reality is it isnt for them, they arent affected so what ever they view as traditional marriage is still true

    for example if yesterday i viewed traditional marriage as the man is in charge and i make the rules and the woman obeys as long as i find a women to actually do that, thats what are traditional marriage will be, if equal gay rights are granted tomorrow my view of traditional marriage doesn't change nor is it impacted i still get to do it. Im sure you know this but she seems to be very confused
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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    this is very true i agree

    but her argument was people are fighting thins because they are worried about "traditional" marriage (which is simply a made up term and subjective) and they dont want it to change.

    THe reality is it isnt for them, they arent affected so what ever they view as traditional marriage is still true

    for example if yesterday i viewed traditional marriage as the man is in charge and i make the rules and the woman obeys as long as i find a women to actually do that, thats what are traditional marriage will be, if equal gay rights are granted tomorrow my view of traditional marriage doesn't change nor is it impacted i still get to do it. Im sure you know this but she seems to be very confused
    I agree with that, but she is right in that this is the reason people give for being upset about it. Personally, I don't mind if gay people get married at all. I don't get the controversy over this groom/bride or husband/wife thing, and I haven't heard a good reason for it yet but meh whatever.

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    no its not, why? because men and women can still marry eachother just like before, sorry you are simply wrong
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