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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    i support gay rights and i like them . but i find this change a little strange . I dont have to be called spouse a or b . I have the right to be wife of a man if i marry him
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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Austin View Post
    I have to admit that things like this sadden me. Its not that I object to "progress", its just that there is no need for something like this.

    The "old" terms could still have been accomodated, this sort of thing is just inflamatory really.
    Well, as with anything else, there has obviously been some whining and bitching going on and it's resulted in generic marriage and divorce certificates. Wouldn't surprise me if one day, we'll see wierdos fighting for their right to marry their dog or cow. I hope I'm long dead by that time.

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    As i stated earlier in this thread I have read quite a few books on Rome and see similarities to their demise and what is going on in America today. The site and quote from it I posted sum up Romes morality issues pretty well for this venue. If you disagree that morality or should I say lack thereof had anything to do with the fall of Rome that is fine but it is one of the many theories out there. Rome fell for a myriad of reasons and IMO their decedent culture was one of them. A society where deviant behavior becomes the norm is doomed and I see us heading in that direction.
    My point was though, how could decadence have been responsible for their fall if they weren't sinful and decadent when they fell? Remember, all of the sinful stuff had stopped by the time they entered decline.
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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    Do you disagree that changing of traditional marriage in the US is a change and that people can be very resistant to change? Because that's all that I was saying.
    yes i do disagree because thats not what is happening, its not changing
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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    Everything I said about the sexual revolution is factual and I provided the sources to back it up. It's all history, so again did you even look at the sources?
    now you are flat out lying

    no it is not all factual you said it was "indistinguishable" not only is that not factual its laughable.

    by all means though again, when you have anything logical or factual to support your claim by all mean please provide.

    Yes i saw your sources they do NOTHING to make your statement factual or logical, nothing.
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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    My point was though, how could decadence have been responsible for their fall if they weren't sinful and decadent when they fell? Remember, all of the sinful stuff had stopped by the time they entered decline.
    A house built on a weak foundation is doomed, my point was Rome was built on an immoral-weak foundation and I see us trading in our Judeo Christian foundation for something more resembling Rome.

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    A house built on a weak foundation is doomed, my point was Rome was built on an immoral-weak foundation and I see us trading in our Judeo Christian foundation for something more resembling Rome.
    That's a weak and silly point. How did immorality that existed hundreds of years earlier doom the Roman Empire? It'd be like if America fell and we blamed it on the Japanese Exclusion Act. Listen man, not everything can be blamed on "teh gays".
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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    They could just have the couple each circle which word they each want to apply. Or just have more than one form to fill out.
    That's what I mean, and what is said during the marriage ceremony? Is it husband and wife, husband and husband, wife and wife, person A and person B, etc., etc. If there is no objection to the terms (husband and/or wife) during the actual ceremony, then why the big deal about what it says on the marriage certificate? I don't get it.

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    As i stated earlier in this thread I have read quite a few books on Rome and see similarities to their demise and what is going on in America today. The site and quote from it I posted sum up Romes morality issues pretty well for this venue. If you disagree that morality or should I say lack thereof had anything to do with the fall of Rome that is fine but it is one of the many theories out there. Rome fell for a myriad of reasons and IMO their decedent culture was one of them. A society where deviant behavior becomes the norm is doomed and I see us heading in that direction.
    You give no logic to "decadence" causing decline. Unless you claim Christianizing is decadent.

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    A house built on a weak foundation is doomed, my point was Rome was built on an immoral-weak foundation and I see us trading in our Judeo Christian foundation for something more resembling Rome.
    Except Rome fell AFTER Judeo-Christian values became influential. At that height of Roman power and for a very, very long there was NO Judeo-Christian values. So the FACTS prove you exactly wrong. Using your asserted cause-and-effect, Judeo-Christian values are the last thing America should have.

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