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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

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    The collapse of the Roman Empire was a very long event. Christianity was definitely the last nail in the coffin. It signaled the end of the decadence that had engulfed Rome but I would submit it was the decadence itself that brought the civilization down.
    Oooookay. If that is what you want to believe then that will be the case. For those of us who actually care about history, we will stick to the facts, not the fairy tales contrived by people who have a political agenda to demonize groups of people who they are personally biased against. I hope you teach your version of history to your children so that that when they show up to a real history class, everyone can get in some good laughs when they share their less than substantiated point of view.
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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    I have no problem with them doing this, it seems necessary if they're going to start allowing gay marriage. It's not like anyone expects people to stop using "husband and wife" in the ceremony or in daily life, it's just on the marriage certificate.

    Although I'm not quite sure why they couldn't just have both, and people can use whichever one they want.
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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I have no problem with them doing this, it seems necessary if they're going to start allowing gay marriage. It's not like anyone expects people to stop using "husband and wife" in the ceremony or in daily life, it's just on the marriage certificate.

    Although I'm not quite sure why they couldn't just have both, and people can use whichever one they want.
    They have changed their minds since the OP & are now offering alternatives to suit everyone.

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Society's decay is the operative term here and maybe I have not made myself clear which is my own fault. I am not blaming sexual permissiveness in and of itself for the fall of Rome or the decline of America. Rome became weak as it's people became more interested in pursuing their own pleasures than in keeping Rome strong and I see that happening to America now with so many feeling "entitled" to so much. There is even talk of giving illegals citizenship if they serve in our army. That exact sort of thing was done in Rome as part of their decline. Having slaves or illegals go to war so your pampered entitled ass can sit home and play with little boys or prostitutes or whatever sexual perversion you lust is a sign of the end coming.

    Soooo in a thread about how to print up marriage certificates you inject off topic opinion?

    I think you miss a great deal of the point of your own off topic opinion. Hitler made the poor judgement call that all US Citizens were good for is jazz and razor blades, that we were too interested in decadence and pleasure to risk life and limb for others.

    Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness

    It is part of our credo.

    Now what has been the constant thread through 'decayed' societies has not been the chasing of boy ho's but rather the wealthy feeling little need to support the nation due to multigenerational wealth and the sense of entitlement it fosters. I'd say our nation's diversion is money, the piling of unfathomable amounts of wealth, even if it is just numbers on a stock screen, rather than gold in a vault and a boy on his knees.

    The other side of the entitled wealthy over class is the growing discontent of those not born wealthy those steadily lose ground in a society rigged against them. Once the masses feel no sense of service for a 'nation' that pampers the wealthy and cares little if anything for those who have been left behind.

    The privileged Elite have ALWAYS been able to indulge their sexual leanings, 1 to 5% of a nation boinking boys doesn't decay a society. England at the height of it's Empire had quite a few odd ducks with noble titles...

    Middle Class gay folks wishing to get married and not using bride and groom, or man and wife isn't decay. It's progress.

    like ending slavery or a woman's right to vote.

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Too late. You are person A. and person B. Deal with it.

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Really, this is easy,

    One each line of the forum do this

    Circle one:
    spouse / wife / husband / elephant / whatever

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    After having read at least a dozen books about Rome and the fall of the Roman Empire I can't hep but see similarities in America today. You can post all the quotes from Wikipedia or wherever you want but to me that proves you have no mind of your own.

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    After having read at least a dozen books about Rome and the fall of the Roman Empire I can't hep but see similarities in America today. You can post all the quotes from Wikipedia or wherever you want but to me that proves you have no mind of your own.
    lol we're collapsing because people want to change spouse titles on legal documents?

    Yeah I remember when that happened back during the 4th century.


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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    I just can't understand why they can't make some small adjustments instead of changing the whole wording.

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    So, are people going to get on one knee and ask "will you be my Person B?" This is just stupid, keep it as husband and wife, husband and husband or wife and wife.
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