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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Austin View Post
    You are to late Im afraid. Theyve now announced theyve changed their minds & have gone with the multiple options format instead.
    Oh well...it's only a matter of time.

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Next we'll have to remove the word "man" from the English language.
    Surely no huperson would agree to such a persondatry ruling?

    How could people personage without such a word?

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    In regards to what topic? Do more than 50% of the heterosexual public at large engage in homosexual sex persistently?
    Why do you keep bringing up 'more than 50%', or 'the majority'? I thought you said you don't define normality by what the majority does.

    And behavior does not necessarily equal orientation.[/QUOTE]

    I tend to not look at behavior as simplistically as what you would emotionally consider "normal".
    I simply recognize that 'normal' is an incredibly subjective term.


    Freud for example considered homosexuality rooted in paranoia. You going to ignore his research and call him stupid too?
    Paranoia? Sigmund Freud would ascribe biological and psychological factors in explaining the principal causes of homosexuality. He openly thought that humans were born bi-sexual, and that orientation was influenced a a large but still unkown number of factors.

    In fact, he even said:

    "Homosexuality is assuredly no advantage, but it is nothing to be ashamed of, no vice, no degradation; it cannot be classified as an illness; we consider it to be a variation of the sexual function, produced by a certain arrest of sexual development. Many highly respectable individuals of ancient and modern times have been homosexuals, several of the greatest men among them. (Plato, Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, etc). It is a great injustice to persecute homosexuality as a crime –and a cruelty, too. If you do not believe me, read the books of Havelock Ellis. "


    You have dodged numerous times within this very thread. It is what it is /shrug
    You have failed numerous times to put of a cohesive argument. It is what it is.



    Projection and butthurt noted



    Dodge noted



    Dodge noted. Trying to appear arrogant and mocking people is not an argument.



    4 dodges so far in one post. You're on a roll. A new record. Gratz.
    Once again, you drop a tremendous amount of fail in one post.

    Gay Parents Study Suggesting Downside For Kids Draws Fire From Social Scientists



    Which in reality are outward signs of the emotional and psychological trauma unfolding within these people. Why would you deny a child their right to be raised by their biological parents in a low conflict household? There is no doubt it is the best environment to raise children in. Why deny them their birthright?
    Did you even read your own article?

    "The study defined same-sex parenting by asking participants if their parents had ever had same-sex relationships, and whether they had lived with the parent at that time."

    "Instead, Regnerus categorized all people who said their parents were once in a same-sex relationship in the same group, even if those people had also experienced major childhood upheavals. About half of the people whose parents had ever been in gay or lesbian relationships also said their parents had once been in a heterosexual marriage, suggesting that a great many of these children were the products of a heterosexual relationship in which one parent later came out as gay or bisexual. Fifty-eight percent of those raised by moms who'd indicated a lesbian experience said their mother once left the household during their youth, and 14 percent said they'd spent time in foster care."

    The only thing Regnerus found was that instability in the family is bad.

    ****ing shocked, I tell you.


    /laugh you're small potatoes
    You're another insignificant hack who exists purely to be beaten into the ground and then laughed at when you try to rise to defend yourself.

    Please, don't pretend you're actually a good debater. It's insulting to the trolls out there that actually try.
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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's an attempt to redefine traditional marriage; hence the terminology changes. The pro-gay marriage folks in Washington got what they wanted, legalized gay marriage, but obviously that's not enough for them.
    In a country where the heterosexual divorce rate is as high as it is and you are worried about a ****ing check box on a form? Yeah, you REALLY care about traditional marriage

    Gay marriage isn't the problem, yet many conservatives want to point at it and say it will destroy the sanctity of marriage. Yet the heterosexual divorce rate is high, so where is the sanctity of marriage there?

    Seems conservatives just want a soap box to bitch.

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Next we'll have to remove the word "man" from the English language.
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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    The decay of a society leads to the eventual sacking of the country. China may well be our version of the Visigoths.
    The Fall of Rome due to sexual acts has it's source in Victorian England. As Protestant England asserted it's Empire on the world it had to sanctify it's acts and Divine Blessing was the reason and fig leaf for the exploitation of decadent or 'inferior' societies. It also showed Gawd loved Her Protestants over those Catholics.

    The 'decay' often cited in the Great Fall had existed since earliest times. Every society has had the perversions pious folks cluck about. Elite Military units were paired gay lovers. Child sex partners didn't start after Rome grew to an Empire but existed way before Romulus and Remus were suckled by a wolf.

    Victorian England was all hot for anything Egyptian at the same time, mainly because they could loot the pyramids at will and anything of value was being sent back to Merry Old England. But the Pharaohs had reached the height of their powers after generations of linear incest. That seemed to go un-noticed in sexually repressed Victorian England.

    Society is more than sex. What caused the collapse of Rome was a so extreme a concentration of wealth and power in the hands of fewer and fewer citizens that the vast populace quit caring to die for the Honor and Glory of Rome. When so many were reduced to slavery pride in the nation suffered. Why would slaves, serfs and indentured folks fight for the few wealthy overlords?

    Societies decay, but not from sexual permissiveness but when all hope dies for the majority of folks living in it...

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Optimal solution...

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    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    No, we'll just introduce Person A Sally and her lovely Person B Danielle.
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    Next we'll have to remove the word "man" from the English language.


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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    The Fall of Rome due to sexual acts has it's source in Victorian England. As Protestant England asserted it's Empire on the world it had to sanctify it's acts and Divine Blessing was the reason and fig leaf for the exploitation of decadent or 'inferior' societies. It also showed Gawd loved Her Protestants over those Catholics.

    The 'decay' often cited in the Great Fall had existed since earliest times. Every society has had the perversions pious folks cluck about. Elite Military units were paired gay lovers. Child sex partners didn't start after Rome grew to an Empire but existed way before Romulus and Remus were suckled by a wolf.

    Victorian England was all hot for anything Egyptian at the same time, mainly because they could loot the pyramids at will and anything of value was being sent back to Merry Old England. But the Pharaohs had reached the height of their powers after generations of linear incest. That seemed to go un-noticed in sexually repressed Victorian England.

    Society is more than sex. What caused the collapse of Rome was a so extreme a concentration of wealth and power in the hands of fewer and fewer citizens that the vast populace quit caring to die for the Honor and Glory of Rome. When so many were reduced to slavery pride in the nation suffered. Why would slaves, serfs and indentured folks fight for the few wealthy overlords?

    Societies decay, but not from sexual permissiveness but when all hope dies for the majority of folks living in it...
    Society's decay is the operative term here and maybe I have not made myself clear which is my own fault. I am not blaming sexual permissiveness in and of itself for the fall of Rome or the decline of America. Rome became weak as it's people became more interested in pursuing their own pleasures than in keeping Rome strong and I see that happening to America now with so many feeling "entitled" to so much. There is even talk of giving illegals citizenship if they serve in our army. That exact sort of thing was done in Rome as part of their decline. Having slaves or illegals go to war so your pampered entitled ass can sit home and play with little boys or prostitutes or whatever sexual perversion you lust is a sign of the end coming.

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    Re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Society's decay is the operative term here and maybe I have not made myself clear which is my own fault. I am not blaming sexual permissiveness in and of itself for the fall of Rome or the decline of America. Rome became weak as it's people became more interested in pursuing their own pleasures than in keeping Rome strong and I see that happening to America now with so many feeling "entitled" to so much. There is even talk of giving illegals citizenship if they serve in our army. That exact sort of thing was done in Rome as part of their decline. Having slaves or illegals go to war so your pampered entitled ass can sit home and play with little boys or prostitutes or whatever sexual perversion you lust is a sign of the end coming.
    Christianity as a contributor to the fall and to stability
    "As the happiness of a future life is the great object of religion, we may hear without surprise or scandal that the introduction, or at least the abuse of Christianity, had some influence on the decline and fall of the Roman empire. The clergy successfully preached the doctrines of patience and pusillanimity; the active virtues of society were discouraged; and the last remains of military spirit were buried in the cloister: a large portion of public and private wealth was consecrated to the specious demands of charity and devotion; and the soldiers' pay was lavished on the useless multitudes of both sexes who could only plead the merits of abstinence and chastity. Faith, zeal, curiosity, and more earthly passions of malice and ambition, kindled the flame of theological discord; the church, and even the state, were distracted by religious factions, whose conflicts were sometimes bloody and always implacable; the attention of the emperors was diverted from camps to synods; the Roman world was oppressed by a new species of tyranny; and the persecuted sects became the secret enemies of their country. Yet party-spirit, however pernicious or absurd, is a principle of union as well as of dissension. The bishops, from eighteen hundred pulpits, inculcated the duty of passive obedience to a lawful and orthodox sovereign; their frequent assemblies and perpetual correspondence maintained the communion of distant churches; and the benevolent temper of the Gospel was strengthened, though confirmed, by the spiritual alliance of the Catholics. The sacred indolence of the monks was devoutly embraced by a servile and effeminate age; but if superstition had not afforded a decent retreat, the same vices would have tempted the unworthy Romans to desert, from baser motives, the standard of the republic. Religious precepts are easily obeyed which indulge and sanctify the natural inclinations of their votaries; but the pure and genuine influence of Christianity may be traced in its beneficial, though imperfect, effects on the barbarian proselytes of the North. If the decline of the Roman empire was hastened by the conversion of Constantine, his victorious religion broke the violence of the fall, and mollified the ferocious temper of the conquerors." (chap. 39).

    The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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