I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK
Moderator's Warning: Let's stick to the topic and cease with the personal attacks, baiting and flaming before any more infractions are handed out.
Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.
I tend to not look at behavior as simplistically as what you would emotionally consider "normal". There are vast complexities at play. Apparently your panties are in a bunch of anyone having the opinion that Homosexual Activity is not "normal". Freud for example considered homosexuality rooted in paranoia. You going to ignore his research and call him stupid too?
You have dodged numerous times within this very thread. It is what it is /shrugThere was no dodge, as you threw nothing but empty rhetoric.
Projection and butthurt notedIt's not my problem you suck at critical thinking.
Dodge notedAnother empty rhetoric device. Try again.
Dodge noted. Trying to appear arrogant and mocking people is not an argument.It was funny until I realized you were being serious.
4 dodges so far in one post. You're on a roll. A new record. Gratz.Now that's what I call a Red Herring!
Gay Parents Study Suggesting Downside For Kids Draws Fire From Social ScientistsThe bolded portions of that line are the only ones with actual facts backing them up.
Numerous studies prove that gay couples can raise children just as effectively as straight couples.
Go ahead Bronson. Try to debate that.
Which in reality are outward signs of the emotional and psychological trauma unfolding within these people. Why would you deny a child their right to be raised by their biological parents in a low conflict household? There is no doubt it is the best environment to raise children in. Why deny them their birthright?The research surveyed almost 3,000 18- to 39-year-olds. Most were raised by heterosexual parents, but 175 had mothers who at one point had same-sex relationships and another 73 of whom had dads once in same-sex relationships. The results suggested that children of these parents are more likely than kids in other family structures to be on public assistance, unemployed or in therapy as adults, among other negative outcomes.
/laugh you're small potatoesI will enjoy crushing you.
It's because the instability in same-sex parent families is largely due to things outside the home. Society's perception of non-straight relationships, bullying, homophobia, and other hatefully BS definitely has an effect on family. If your family was being berated for what it was, if your parents' relationship was constantly being chastised and delegitimized, if you're being picked on and bullied at school because kids found out you have two moms or two dads, I'm sure it would have some sort of effect on you. Our civilization hasn't even given same-sex parent families the chance to actually thrive without constant hate and criticism, so it's no wonder there are adverse effects on the children.Strong criticism
But other scientists say the research is deeply flawed, and does not measure the effect of same-sex parenting at all. The study defined same-sex parenting by asking participants if their parents had ever had same-sex relationships, and whether they had lived with the parent at that time. That led to a "hodgepodge" group of people who Regnerus then compared with kids in stable, married homes, said Judith Stacey, a sociologist at New York University who was not involved in the research.
"He doesn't have an actual category of gay parents in the project that you can isolate and say the most important thing in this kid's childhood is that they were raised by gay parents," Stacey told LiveScience. "These are kids whose parents, maybe they divorced, maybe they separated, maybe they had a scandalous affair, we just don't know." [5 Myths About Gay People]
In contrast, a fair comparison would have matched up children of same-sex parents with children of heterosexual parents who looked otherwise similar — no extra divorces, no extra separations, no extra time in foster care for the kids, said Gary Gates, a researcher at the Williams Institute, a sexual orientation policy think tank at the University of California, Los Angeles.
Instead, Regnerus categorized all people who said their parents were once in a same-sex relationship in the same group, even if those people had also experienced major childhood upheavals. About half of the people whose parents had ever been in gay or lesbian relationships also said their parents had once been in a heterosexual marriage, suggesting that a great many of these children were the products of a heterosexual relationship in which one parent later came out as gay or bisexual. Fifty-eight percent of those raised by moms who'd indicated a lesbian experience said their mother once left the household during their youth, and 14 percent said they'd spent time in foster care.
"All he found is that family instability is bad for children and that's hardly groundbreaking or new," Gates, who was not involved in the research, told LiveScience.
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Seriously actually read the link you posted.