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    re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    You claim it is "natural"

    I disagree

    You keep ignoring everything and falling back upon this "animals are gay too. So it's natural." strawman

    There is no "homosexual instinct" in animals. You can't point to irrational animal behavior and claim we use that to measure what is morally acceptable in a civil society. Men are rational beings. When an animal is trying to jam it's sexual organ into an anus, it's not making a rational determination that it is engaging in a homosexual act. It doesn't even know the difference between an anus and a vagina. They don't recognize and separate different stimuli intellectually like humans do.

    Animals also eat their young and engage is cannibalism. Are those natural too?
    Yes, actually.

    Something being natural, of course, doesn't provide it with any moral or ethical shading, for better or worse. So that's a non-starter of an argument no matter who's suggesting it.
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    re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    And they wouldn't have come to that conclusion because of political reasons? The "normalization" of Homosexuality is just another Cultural Marxist tactic to break down the traditional family.
    You'll have to point out where that is in Marx's writings. In most places that had a Marxist government, homosexuality got you sent to prison.

    Or do you just call everything you don't like "Marxist?"


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    re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    /yawn

    Dodge noted
    Dodging what? The verbal diarrhea you're spewing again?


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    re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Actually there may be instincts in animals to engage in homosexual behavior. We simply do not know for sure. The prevalence of such activity suggests it is strongly possible there is.
    There isn't one

    You can't project human emotions, motivations, and sentiments onto animals and claim it's "science"

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Dodging what? The verbal diarrhea you're spewing again?
    Dodge 2 noted

    Sling all the insults you want. Doesn't bother me.

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    re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Short version of thread:

    Some (ok...MANY) theocrats are butt-hurt to discover that the theocracy they want is not in place (yet), resulting in at least a few policies which are (for the moment) not twisted to serve their fundamentalist vision.

    Get over it.
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    re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    This is the kind of stuff that predicated the fall of the Roman empire. Watch for the legalization of having sex with children next.
    people that make this illogical leap quickly show how grossly uneducated they are about reality and facts. LMAO its funny because there are always a few that say thing like this instantly proving how clueless they are about the subject at hand.
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    re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    I'm about to go off on the gays if this doesn't stop. The gays can call each other whatever in the heck they want. I'll even provide the white out for their certificate. However, they're in for a fight if they expect me and other normal couples to drop the use of husband and wife.

    why would gays expect YOU to drop husband and wife? that makes no sense not to mention this wasnt done by the "gays"
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    re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Austin View Post
    Why does there have to be "equivelants"?

    Whats wrong with alternatives instead?

    If the cap doesnt fit do you need to destroy the cap, or can you wear a different hat while the person the cap fits wears the cap?

    Things like this are inflamatory, as they take from others where there is no need.
    how does it take away?
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    re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    Expecting every darn thing to become gender neutral is going overboard.
    who is "expecting" that?
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