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    re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Homosexuality isn't a mental disorder simply because you find it "icky". All of our sexual organs serve multiple purposes. Your argument is invalid.
    Excuse me can you point to where I claimed it was "icky" or where I found it repulsive?

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    re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    This is the kind of stuff that predicated the fall of the Roman empire. Watch for the legalization of having sex with children next.
    For the sake of sport.

    The Roman Empire fell because of excessive micromanagement from the Roman Emperors spurred social and economic unrest that required them to divide the Empire into smaller administrative units. These often became political and military rivals, fighting civil wars for the control of the empire as it was before the divisions. While this turmoil was occurring warrior-tribes (like the Franks, Anglo-Saxons, and Goths) moved from unconquered territories (like Germania, and central Europe generally) into Roman territories (like Gaul, Britannia, and the Iberian peninsula [Spain]), providing new security and forming new power-structures around their chiefs, who eventually became the hereditary kings and nobility of the feudal system that overtook Western, Central, and finally Northern Europe. This barbarian migration eventually extended into Italy itself, and after repeated conquests (from the Vandals and the Goths) the last institutions of the Roman Republic fell into disuse and the Pope took direct political control of the ruins of Rome (the surrounding territories would become the Papal States).

    Feudalism never really came to Italy itself (except when some of its territories were conquered by the Normans and Germans), and ancient republican institutions (such as those in Venice) persisted for a long time in cities and towns outside of Rome. In Roman style, these were mainly oligarchical in character and centered around wealthy and prominent families in the Patrician tradition.

    The Eastern half of the Empire (Byzantine) was free from most of this turmoil and persisted as a economic, cultural, and military powerhouse for some centuries -- one that continued to identify itself with the legacy and the traditions of Rome until it was conquered by the Turks in the Late Middle Ages.

    Gay marriage does not pertain to the division and gradual dissolution of the Roman Empire.
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    re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    One small correction, urine is not expelled through our vaginas. It's expelled through a separate opening, the urethra.
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    re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Excuse me can you point to where I claimed it was "icky" or where I found it repulsive?

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    No, you're just claiming that a perfectly natural act is a mental disorder. Homosexuality is quite common even in the animal world. What is your real beef with them? Do they not deserve to be happy?
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    State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    One small correction, urine is not expelled through our vaginas. It's expelled through a separate opening, the urethra. Otherwise...good post!
    True. I didn't think Bronson would understand "connects bladder to genitals and is expelled through the urethra which is included in the anterior vaginal wall," though.
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    re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    True. I didn't think Bronson would understand "connects bladder to genitals and is expelled through the urethra which is included in the anterior vaginal wall," though.
    No worries, I just wanted to clarify, though I would assume most guys understand that anyway.

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    re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    No, you're just claiming that a perfectly natural act is a mental disorder. Homosexuality is quite common even in the animal world. What is your real beef with them? Do they not deserve to be happy?
    You claim it is "natural"

    I disagree

    You keep ignoring everything and falling back upon this "animals are gay too. So it's natural." strawman

    There is no "homosexual instinct" in animals. You can't point to irrational animal behavior and claim we use that to measure what is morally acceptable in a civil society. Men are rational beings. When an animal is trying to jam it's sexual organ into an anus, it's not making a rational determination that it is engaging in a homosexual act. It doesn't even know the difference between an anus and a vagina. They don't recognize and separate different stimuli intellectually like humans do.

    Animals also eat their young and engage is cannibalism. Are those natural too?

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    re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    True. I didn't think Bronson would understand "connects bladder to genitals and is expelled through the urethra which is included in the anterior vaginal wall," though.
    There you go with the mocking and humiliation tactics again

    You are stuck in emotional arguments so you try and label anyone "stupid" who doesn't agree with you

    Like I said before I don't bother with that nonsense. Keep leaning on everyone else for emotional support though if it makes you feel better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    No
    Thank you for the clarification

    The rest of your post was once again an attempt to negatively label my opinions with things I never claimed. You need to please stop doing that.

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    re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    You claim it is "natural"

    I disagree

    You keep ignoring everything and falling back upon this "animals are gay too. So it's natural." strawman

    There is no "homosexual instinct" in animals. You can't point to irrational animal behavior and claim we use that to measure what is morally acceptable in a civil society. Men are rational beings. When an animal is trying to jam it's sexual organ into an anus, it's not making a rational determination that it is engaging in a homosexual act. It doesn't even know the difference between an anus and a vagina. They don't recognize and separate different stimuli intellectually like humans do.

    Animals also eat their young and engage is cannibalism. Are those natural too?
    My dog is gay. He seems to have absolutely no sexual interest in female dogs. He always humps male dogs. That's ok with me, that's his decision, as long as it makes him happy.

    My question is, why do you feel that other people being gay effects your life? If it makes them happy, who are you to interfere? What is it you want to do with gay people?
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