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    Re: Naked AIDS Activists Occupy Boehner's Office

    Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
    And suddenly big government is the alternative?

    Ever heard of personal responsibility, and person to person charity?
    Sure, why not? For the record, most of said funding goes towards private researchers and medicinal entities, so don't worry, profit will still be in the mix.

    Sure, in regards to small groupings of individuals and in matters of far less urgency. Not all of those afflicted with deadly diseases have the luxury of waiting for a good samaritan to stroll by.

    The fact that this is a controversial subject for some is absolutely mind boggling.

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    Re: Naked AIDS Activists Occupy Boehner's Office

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Key words there.
    You certainly do have a flare for the obvious.

    Oh, and there are many others, especially in my circles, who are partial to the same thing.

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    Re: Naked AIDS Activists Occupy Boehner's Office

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So, because the government is incapable of making people immortal, it should never try to do any bit of good. Got it.
    It all depends on your definition of good. Is good that we save people who act irresponsibly and endanger society or is it good to allow them to suffer the depredations of their own choosing and let them fall out of society? Is it our best and our brightest that are voluntarily falling to this disease? Probably not, if they were the brightest, they would recognize the risks and protect themselves.

    Maybe it would be different and people would have a different opinion of it if it was not a disease that only exits today because of the irresponsible and stupid actions of a few. There is a cure for this disease already, don't get involved with high-risk activities and if you do, follow simple, easy precautions. The real disease that causes the spread of aids is not HIV, it is stupidity, and stupidity cannot be cured.
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    Re: Naked AIDS Activists Occupy Boehner's Office

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Oh, and there are many others, especially in my circles, who are partial to the same thing.
    Oh I'm sure there are, but that doesn't make it a viable alternative for those afflicted with the disease or the populace at large, which was what my previous post implied.

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    Re: Naked AIDS Activists Occupy Boehner's Office

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    It all depends on your definition of good. Is good that we save people who act irresponsibly and endanger society or is it good to allow them to suffer the depredations of their own choosing and let them fall out of society? Is it our best and our brightest that are voluntarily falling to this disease? Probably not, if they were the brightest, they would recognize the risks and protect themselves.

    Maybe it would be different and people would have a different opinion of it if it was not a disease that only exits today because of the irresponsible and stupid actions of a few. There is a cure for this disease already, don't get involved with high-risk activities and if you do, follow simple, easy precautions. The real disease that causes the spread of aids is not HIV, it is stupidity, and stupidity cannot be cured.
    And how about diseases that aren't caused by risky behavior? We shouldn't try to find a cure for those with government help? You were speaking in much broader terms in the post I quoted, now you seem to have retreated back and are just talking about this particular disease. Which is it?
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    Re: Naked AIDS Activists Occupy Boehner's Office

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    It all depends on your definition of good. Is good that we save people who act irresponsibly and endanger society or is it good to allow them to suffer the depredations of their own choosing and let them fall out of society? Is it our best and our brightest that are voluntarily falling to this disease? Probably not, if they were the brightest, they would recognize the risks and protect themselves.
    Careful now, you're strolling dangerously close to the Eugenics plank.

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    Re: Naked AIDS Activists Occupy Boehner's Office

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Careful now, you're strolling dangerously close to the Eugenics plank.
    I have no problem with naturally occurring Eugenics. Man-made Eugenics is different, but Eugenics through natural selection, let it run it's course. I don't support the government spending my tax dollars to stop naturally occuring eugenics.
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    Re: Naked AIDS Activists Occupy Boehner's Office

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    It all depends on your definition of good. Is good that we save people who act irresponsibly and endanger society or is it good to allow them to suffer the depredations of their own choosing and let them fall out of society? Is it our best and our brightest that are voluntarily falling to this disease? Probably not, if they were the brightest, they would recognize the risks and protect themselves.

    Maybe it would be different and people would have a different opinion of it if it was not a disease that only exits today because of the irresponsible and stupid actions of a few. There is a cure for this disease already, don't get involved with high-risk activities and if you do, follow simple, easy precautions. The real disease that causes the spread of aids is not HIV, it is stupidity, and stupidity cannot be cured.
    Oh yes, lets all get tested before every sex act. Lets all also ignore the fact that sometimes condoms break. Lets also ignore all the people that this virus was transmitted to because of simple accidents.

    After all, those that are irresponsible are sub-human and don't deserve simple human compassion...amiright?



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    Re: Naked AIDS Activists Occupy Boehner's Office

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    And how about diseases that aren't caused by risky behavior? We shouldn't try to find a cure for those with government help? You were speaking in much broader terms in the post I quoted, now you seem to have retreated back and are just talking about this particular disease. Which is it?
    It is a failure on my part to communicate clearly.

    "It all depends on your definition of good. Is good that we save people who act irresponsibly and endanger society or is it good to allow them to suffer the depredations of their own choosing and let them fall out of society?" is a statement of general philosophy towards disease and other factors in society.

    There should of been a paragraph break after that to delineate.

    Diseases that aren't caused by personal behavior, it is ok if the government chips in when it can, but it has no responsibility to do so. Since funding for disease research is not a base function of government and we are currently deep in debt and keep getting deeper, then these programs for all diseases should be cut.

    Until the debt is paid off and we no longer have deficit spending, government should be paying for very little except for those functions that are true government functions and not niceties.
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    Re: Naked AIDS Activists Occupy Boehner's Office

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    I have no problem with naturally occurring Eugenics. Man-made Eugenics is different, but Eugenics through natural selection, let it run it's course. I don't support the government spending my tax dollars to stop naturally occuring eugenics.
    In any case, most modern societies have moved past the absurd notion of genetic purification whether that be achieved by action or non action ("natural occurrences") such as your endorsing. Those who support such ideas should be led as far away from positions of power or influence as humanly possible.

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