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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    and nobody is knocking that opinion, depending on how it was used i may agree with you, people are just pointing out the fact that it doesnt violate any rights or freedoms like some falsely pointed out.
    I find it to be intrusive. If I were a student, why would I want the administration to know if I were on the throne? Is that their business? No, it is mine.

    When I was in school, they did a perfectly acceptable thing. They had teachers/administrators walking the halls from time to time, locked doors to areas where students don't belong, and teachers gave these funny things call "hall passes."

    Someone mentioned bullying, and that will never be stopped. You cannot stop bullying through more control. It won't work at all. Bullying is a part of coming up in school, and it is up to the parents of the bully and the victim to discuss ways to get through it. More often then not, you stop bullying by punching the bully square in the face. Way to stop the bully from bullying is to have good parenting.

    There is a line that should not be crossed, and students should be given the right to their own privacy even within school property. Like I said, why should administrators know if a student is dropping a deuce?

    Hall Passes, cameras, and adults in the halls from time to time....that is all you need.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    I find it to be intrusive.
    of course you do. you should. the school would have a means to find you that it would not otherwise possess. but that does not make it wrong
    If I were a student, why would I want the administration to know if I were on the throne?
    why would the school be concerned with what the student wants
    Is that their business? No, it is mine.
    dropping the deuce is your own business, certainly
    but knowing that you are on campus even tho they cannot physically see what you are doing in the stall, is a legitimate concern for the school
    When I was in school, they did a perfectly acceptable thing. They had teachers/administrators walking the halls from time to time, locked doors to areas where students don't belong, and teachers gave these funny things call "hall passes."
    and when i was in school they had mimeograph machines and one phone on campus, located at the principal's office. handheld calculators had not yet been invented; used a slide rule instead. times change. we have access to much more useful technology now than we had then. unless there is a good reason not to use it, then we should use it
    Someone mentioned bullying, and that will never be stopped. You cannot stop bullying through more control. It won't work at all. Bullying is a part of coming up in school, and it is up to the parents of the bully and the victim to discuss ways to get through it. More often then not, you stop bullying by punching the bully square in the face. Way to stop the bully from bullying is to have good parenting.
    you can monitor the movements of the bully so that you can better monitor the bully's actions, hopefully preventing him from intimidating other students
    seems like a good application of this device
    There is a line that should not be crossed, and students should be given the right to their own privacy even within school property.
    why is that a line which should not be crossed. what right do the students have not to be monitored on campus
    Like I said, why should administrators know if a student is dropping a deuce?
    last year, while teaching, my wife was trying to locate a troublesome student who left her classroom
    another student ratted the girl out; she was standing/squatting on the commode so that her feet would not show underneath. she was hiding. with this device, my wife would not have needed a student to violate omerta to confirm that the student remained on campus for the security staff to pick up
    Hall Passes, cameras, and adults in the halls from time to time....that is all you need.
    if that was all that was needed, then this new technology would not be adopted. it can better do things some of those other techniques cannot
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    I find it to be intrusive. If I were a student, why would I want the administration to know if I were on the throne? Is that their business? No, it is mine.

    When I was in school, they did a perfectly acceptable thing. They had teachers/administrators walking the halls from time to time, locked doors to areas where students don't belong, and teachers gave these funny things call "hall passes."

    Someone mentioned bullying, and that will never be stopped. You cannot stop bullying through more control. It won't work at all. Bullying is a part of coming up in school, and it is up to the parents of the bully and the victim to discuss ways to get through it. More often then not, you stop bullying by punching the bully square in the face. Way to stop the bully from bullying is to have good parenting.

    There is a line that should not be crossed, and students should be given the right to their own privacy even within school property. Like I said, why should administrators know if a student is dropping a deuce?

    Hall Passes, cameras, and adults in the halls from time to time....that is all you need.
    again you are allowed to find it intrusive or have an opinion that you think its too much, not arguing opinions just stating the fact it doesnt violate rights, hall passes and cameras and adults in the hallwall may allow me to know if you are taking a dump just as much lol
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    and if i am the school administrator and experience a columbine-like assault, i want to know how many of my students are located in the most vulnerable location
    with this device, i should be able to learn that information
    Except in that case, so would the assailant. In fact the kid would probably be more familiar with the tech.

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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    No. It's an obligation of the school. I expect my kid's school to take every reasonable means to ensure the safety of my children from the minute I drop them off to the minute I pick them up. If RFID chips on a card will help ensure that the obligation is fulfilled, I don't have a single issue with it.
    It was rhetorical. I agree. It is our obligation both moral and legal. Many people don't seem to understand the later...
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    How does the tracking magically stop when the student leaves school grounds?
    They turn in their card? Not that difficult.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    I find it to be intrusive. If I were a student, why would I want the administration to know if I were on the throne? Is that their business? No, it is mine.
    Students are children and thankfully adults make decisions for things that students obviously wouldn't like. Do we let our kids eat ice cream for dinner every night or do we have them eat their vegetables?

    When I was in school, they did a perfectly acceptable thing. They had teachers/administrators walking the halls from time to time, locked doors to areas where students don't belong, and teachers gave these funny things call "hall passes."
    You seem to have no idea what unsupervised students can get away with. That's rhetorical.

    Someone mentioned bullying, and that will never be stopped. You cannot stop bullying through more control. It won't work at all. Bullying is a part of coming up in school, and it is up to the parents of the bully and the victim to discuss ways to get through it. More often then not, you stop bullying by punching the bully square in the face. Way to stop the bully from bullying is to have good parenting.
    Punch them in the face? Absolutely clueless.

    The ignorance of this post is simply astounding...

    There is a line that should not be crossed, and students should be given the right to their own privacy even within school property. Like I said, why should administrators know if a student is dropping a deuce?

    Hall Passes, cameras, and adults in the halls from time to time....that is all you need.
    Why should students be filmed going into the bathroom to tak a deuce?
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    They turn in their card? Not that difficult.
    Do they?

    So every morning there is a huge line to get their specific card back in the morning?

    How much time does that waste?

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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Do they?

    So every morning there is a huge line to get their specific card back in the morning?

    How much time does that waste?
    People seem to operate just fine when they punch in to work... they could leave them in their desks or lockers as well. The point is not that my solution is the best but rather that there are solutions that can easily solve the problem.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Students are children and thankfully adults make decisions for things that students obviously wouldn't like. Do we let our kids eat ice cream for dinner every night or do we have them eat their vegetables?
    High School kids have entered an age where rebellion is going to happen regardless of what action is taken. You allow the parents to do the parenting and if the kid is found to be in trouble then appropriate action is to be taken. This does not mean you put electronic tracking on them.



    You seem to have no idea what unsupervised students can get away with. That's rhetorical.
    Fine its rhetorical then



    Punch them in the face? Absolutely clueless.

    The ignorance of this post is simply astounding...
    Ignorance huh? That would imply that I'm uneducated on the subject which I am not. I went through school being bullied. I tried everything else...tell an adult...blah blah blah!

    You know what worked? When I decided that enough was enough and I didn't let myself get walked over. I reared back and socked that bully right in the jaw. Guess what? That problem was solved.

    Kids have become soft. You are put into situations where defending yourself is a must. I learned that. Whether or not I got my ass kicked was irrelevant because just standing up for myself ended the bullying. They went elsewhere because they knew they would be in a fight with me. Sometimes these situations aren't all candy canes and lollipops. You have to defense yourself at times, and with bullies...it usually works!

    When I said cameras....it was security cameras around the entrances and exits...not the bathroom for Gods sake.
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