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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by blaxshep View Post
    I'm from the government and I am here to help.
    These types of policies are made on a state and local district level. I thought the whole "evil government" argument was against the federal government...

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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I hope the student wins.**** like this could be used to used to breed compliance with government and corporate monitoring of what we do.

    Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker | Threat Level | Wired.com

    A Texas high school student is being suspended for refusing to wear a student ID card implanted with a radio-frequency identification chip.
    Northside Independent School District in San Antonio began issuing the RFID-chip-laden student-body cards when the semester began in the fall. The ID badge has a bar code associated with a student’s Social Security number, and the RFID chip monitors pupils’ movements on campus, from when they arrive until when they leave.
    Radio-frequency identification devices are a daily part of the electronic age — found in passports, and library and payment cards. Eventually they’re expected to replace bar-code labels on consumer goods. Now schools across the nation are slowly adopting them as well.
    The suspended student, sophomore Andrea Hernandez, was notified by the Northside Independent School District in San Antonio that she won’t be able to continue attending John Jay High School unless she wears the badge around her neck, which she has been refusing to do. The district said the girl, who objects on privacy and religious grounds, beginning Monday would have to attend another high school in the district that does not yet employ the RFID tags.
    The Rutherford Institute said it would go to court and try to nullify the district’s decision. The institute said that the district’s stated purpose for the program — to enhance their coffers — is “fundamentally disturbing.”
    “There is something fundamentally disturbing about this school district’s insistence on steamrolling students into complying with programs that have nothing whatsoever to do with academic priorities and everything to do with fattening school coffers,” said John Whitehead, the institute’s president.
    Just trying to make the younger generation complacent, so they don't question when these actions are brought forth on a grander scale in the future. Thanks for keeping us "safe" Big Brother.

    What sickens me the most are all these supposed Americans whom cheer and applaud the death of freedom.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Just trying to make the younger generation complacent, so they don't question when these actions are brought forth on a grander scale in the future. Thanks for keeping us "safe" Big Brother.

    What sickens me the most are all these supposed Americans whom cheer and applaud the death of freedom.
    how can wearing this device work to the student's detriment?
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    how can wearing this device work to the student's detriment?
    Why should an individual succumb to big brother monitoring? The school has no license for this amount of infringement. This isn't one of those "if you're not doing anything wrong, you've got nothing to worry about" bs areas. I applaud anyone who stands against aggressive and unwarranted policing. Could Big Brother keep us safer? Maybe, but that's not license for using it.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Why should an individual succumb to big brother monitoring? The school has no license for this amount of infringement. This isn't one of those "if you're not doing anything wrong, you've got nothing to worry about" bs areas. I applaud anyone who stands against aggressive and unwarranted policing. Could Big Brother keep us safer? Maybe, but that's not license for using it.
    I see no conern over this in a rights or freedom regard.

    Before the tags the students have no rights or freedoms to go anywhere on school property they please and any time they want

    after the tags, that still remains true but can now me monitored me efficiently

    nothing is lost
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Why should an individual succumb to big brother monitoring? The school has no license for this amount of infringement. This isn't one of those "if you're not doing anything wrong, you've got nothing to worry about" bs areas. I applaud anyone who stands against aggressive and unwarranted policing. Could Big Brother keep us safer? Maybe, but that's not license for using it.
    i missed the part where you described how wearing this device works to the student's detriment
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    I see no conern over this in a rights or freedom regard.

    Before the tags the students have no rights or freedoms to go anywhere on school property they please and any time they want

    after the tags, that still remains true but can now me monitored me efficiently

    nothing is lost
    The same is true in public, would you object to being forced to carrying RFID when you are not in your own home? Nothing lost, yes?
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The same is true in public, would you object to being forced to carrying RFID when you are not in your own home? Nothing lost, yes?
    uhm no these are not even close to the same thing, there are many places outside of my home that i am free to go to anytime i please when ever i want. SO sorry that example is a HUGE failure.

    however are you free to come into my home anytime you want whenever you want? nope
    do i have the right to monitor you if you do? yep

    sorry nothing IS lost.

    Right now my kid is at school and they dont have tags, they most certainly cant go anywhere in the building they want at anytime the want.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    When I was in High School...I made consistent good grades. Sometimes I felt like leaving and did so...was it skipping? Yes it was, but that happened back in the day.

    School kids are being herded in these schools like inmates. They don't have the freedom to wear a hat in school, a certain color, or sometimes they can't even wear the clothes they want. It is an egregious violation of freedom. We try to teach our kids the value of freedom by taking them away?

    Schools have one job to do...teach the kids. That is it. They have no obligation to track them or see where they are within that school. While the kid is on campus...they are under the school supervision...if that kid leaves...that school is no longer responsible. The teenager has decided to take on the responsibility for themselves. Guess what? 16-18 year olds like the idea of freedom of what they do. The school can not be an institution of control and imprisonment for 8 hours a day. It needs to be a place of freedom of expression, and academics.

    I would be outraged as a parent if the school had this on my child. I want the school to let ME do the parenting and they can do the teaching. While my kid is in school, I know they may choose to skip...if they are keeping up their grades...what is the problem? If he skips and doesn't keep up the grades...well I'll find out why and use appropriate punishment.

    Freedom is NOT safe people. It is not meant to be. To allow a school to herd around your kids at school like a bunch of inmates in a prison goes against the very fabric of freedom and good parenting.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    I think the school is foolish to implement RFID tagging. Since they have the ability to track the whereabouts of each student, don't they also have an obligation to actually monitor this?

    What I'm getting at is this - say a student sneaks off campus, heads to the wrong part of town to buy weed, and gets shot. Now, thanks to the RFID tags informing the school of the student's whereabouts, the school is partially liable for what happened to the student.

    By implementing this program, the school is assuming additional responsibilities and liabilities that I doubt the school is prepared to handle from a staffing and financial perspective.

    It's what's called "pandora's box."

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I hope the student wins.**** like this could be used to used to breed compliance with government and corporate monitoring of what we do.

    Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker | Threat Level | Wired.com

    A Texas high school student is being suspended for refusing to wear a student ID card implanted with a radio-frequency identification chip.
    Northside Independent School District in San Antonio began issuing the RFID-chip-laden student-body cards when the semester began in the fall. The ID badge has a bar code associated with a student’s Social Security number, and the RFID chip monitors pupils’ movements on campus, from when they arrive until when they leave.
    Radio-frequency identification devices are a daily part of the electronic age — found in passports, and library and payment cards. Eventually they’re expected to replace bar-code labels on consumer goods. Now schools across the nation are slowly adopting them as well.
    The suspended student, sophomore Andrea Hernandez, was notified by the Northside Independent School District in San Antonio that she won’t be able to continue attending John Jay High School unless she wears the badge around her neck, which she has been refusing to do. The district said the girl, who objects on privacy and religious grounds, beginning Monday would have to attend another high school in the district that does not yet employ the RFID tags.
    The Rutherford Institute said it would go to court and try to nullify the district’s decision. The institute said that the district’s stated purpose for the program — to enhance their coffers — is “fundamentally disturbing.”
    “There is something fundamentally disturbing about this school district’s insistence on steamrolling students into complying with programs that have nothing whatsoever to do with academic priorities and everything to do with fattening school coffers,” said John Whitehead, the institute’s president.

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