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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    As a parent I want this program in my childrens schools. But I bet most of the people objecting do not have kids. Or they are in school themselves.

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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    As a parent I want this program in my childrens schools. But I bet most of the people objecting do not have kids. Or they are in school themselves.
    I have to say the more i talk about it and think about it id be all on board to as long as its an addition. That would be my only concern i would want all the things they already do to assure attendance and safety to still happen and this also be added.

    Again maybe im biased because im a parent, i volunteer at a school, work with youth groups and these badges are already used at my work but I see no problem with it thats a major concern or con over the pros and it certainly doesn't violate any rights.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I hope the student wins.**** like this could be used to used to breed compliance with government and corporate monitoring of what we do.

    Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker | Threat Level | Wired.com

    A Texas high school student is being suspended for refusing to wear a student ID card implanted with a radio-frequency identification chip.
    Northside Independent School District in San Antonio began issuing the RFID-chip-laden student-body cards when the semester began in the fall. The ID badge has a bar code associated with a student’s Social Security number, and the RFID chip monitors pupils’ movements on campus, from when they arrive until when they leave.
    Radio-frequency identification devices are a daily part of the electronic age — found in passports, and library and payment cards. Eventually they’re expected to replace bar-code labels on consumer goods. Now schools across the nation are slowly adopting them as well.
    The suspended student, sophomore Andrea Hernandez, was notified by the Northside Independent School District in San Antonio that she won’t be able to continue attending John Jay High School unless she wears the badge around her neck, which she has been refusing to do. The district said the girl, who objects on privacy and religious grounds, beginning Monday would have to attend another high school in the district that does not yet employ the RFID tags.
    The Rutherford Institute said it would go to court and try to nullify the district’s decision. The institute said that the district’s stated purpose for the program — to enhance their coffers — is “fundamentally disturbing.”
    “There is something fundamentally disturbing about this school district’s insistence on steamrolling students into complying with programs that have nothing whatsoever to do with academic priorities and everything to do with fattening school coffers,” said John Whitehead, the institute’s president.
    Wow, not even the principals at my middle/high school is this desperate.

    At my district, nobody needs to wear trackers so the administrators know where they are. All you need is a pass from your teacher. If you're caught someplace you're not supposed to be, that's up to you and the administration.

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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    no more than teachers, guards, or any faculty watching where they are going now, its just more efficient.
    The school has the right to know where the kids are at all times, so the use of the word spying seems silly.

    because the fact is if you think the TAGS are "spying" they are already being spied on

    you ever gonna tell me what rights are being violated?
    True, but in my school, that's not going to happen.

    The school administrators and teachers are not in the business of tracking where their students are. The school never had a major issue with students leaving the building unsupervised.

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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by marcus903 View Post
    True, but in my school, that's not going to happen.

    The school administrators and teachers are not in the business of tracking where their students are. The school never had a major issue with students leaving the building unsupervised.
    well in general a school by default is in the business of tracking the students just not in this manner.
    But i agree with you, if a school doesn't have an issues with attendance of school and classes or skipping out of school or classes its not a "needed" product and would do little to improve anything.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Yes.
    Well that is just sad.

    You'd better know where they are, whether they are in the bathroom or somewhere else. Of course, you don't watch them go, but you do monitor how long they've been in there.
    Small kids you will most likely always be there with them. As they get older you should go from being with them always to a place where they can handle themselves and do whatever they are doing. For example, a eleven year old you can allow them to do their thing while you go outside and do yard work or whatever while a toddler if you are going outside you will take them with you. Like I said earlier, different age children calls for different amounts of attention and as a parent you should permit them more privacy as their abilities expand and their need for you lowers. If you ever notice this is how it works. As their abilities expand they are allowed more freedom by their parents and are watched less closely.

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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Well that is just sad.



    Small kids you will most likely always be there with them. As they get older you should go from being with them always to a place where they can handle themselves and do whatever they are doing. For example, a eleven year old you can allow them to do their thing while you go outside and do yard work or whatever while a toddler if you are going outside you will take them with you. Like I said earlier, different age children calls for different amounts of attention and as a parent you should permit them more privacy as their abilities expand and their need for you lowers. If you ever notice this is how it works. As their abilities expand they are allowed more freedom by their parents and are watched less closely.
    Correct, but, if they have responsible parents, they are still watched. Kids who are allowed to do their own thing without supervision tend to get into trouble.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    And tracking peoples location is violation of their rights.
    To participate in school, students must give up some of their personal rights during the school day. Otherwise, how would a school be able to require a certain dress code, or place students in detention.

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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by JRog View Post
    To participate in school, students must give up some of their personal rights during the school day. Otherwise, how would a school be able to require a certain dress code, or place students in detention.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I hope the student wins.**** like this could be used to used to breed compliance with government and corporate monitoring of what we do.

    Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker | Threat Level | Wired.com

    A Texas high school student is being suspended for refusing to wear a student ID card implanted with a radio-frequency identification chip.
    Northside Independent School District in San Antonio began issuing the RFID-chip-laden student-body cards when the semester began in the fall. The ID badge has a bar code associated with a student’s Social Security number, and the RFID chip monitors pupils’ movements on campus, from when they arrive until when they leave.
    Radio-frequency identification devices are a daily part of the electronic age — found in passports, and library and payment cards. Eventually they’re expected to replace bar-code labels on consumer goods. Now schools across the nation are slowly adopting them as well.
    The suspended student, sophomore Andrea Hernandez, was notified by the Northside Independent School District in San Antonio that she won’t be able to continue attending John Jay High School unless she wears the badge around her neck, which she has been refusing to do. The district said the girl, who objects on privacy and religious grounds, beginning Monday would have to attend another high school in the district that does not yet employ the RFID tags.
    The Rutherford Institute said it would go to court and try to nullify the district’s decision. The institute said that the district’s stated purpose for the program — to enhance their coffers — is “fundamentally disturbing.”
    “There is something fundamentally disturbing about this school district’s insistence on steamrolling students into complying with programs that have nothing whatsoever to do with academic priorities and everything to do with fattening school coffers,” said John Whitehead, the institute’s president.
    He should have no problem wearing his RFID tracker after microwaving it for 30 seconds.

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