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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I worked at a school with 100 kids... all expelled, with two guards. That is a pretty damn good ratio. They didn't help at all. There were drugs, fights, weapons, etc. DAILY.

    The more I think about it the more I like the idea of these security cards.



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    thats sad it was like that, my school is sin general i think pretty good.
    Maybe im negative but i think drugs and fights will be at every school, not that i want it or condone it but i doubt that will ever be prevented.
    No weapons that im aware of, over the years there has been some knives and stuff but it never seemed they were at school for violence, they were there cause they were a gift or "cool"

    I like the badges as long as it isnt a "replacement" for good supervision. it should be in ADDITION too good supervision.
    I have zero concern with the rights things because non are violated
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    thats sad it was like that, my school is sin general i think pretty good.
    Maybe im negative but i think drugs and fights will be at every school, not that i want it or condone it but i doubt that will ever be prevented.
    No weapons that im aware of, over the years there has been some knives and stuff but it never seemed they were at school for violence, they were there cause they were a gift or "cool"

    I like the badges as long as it isnt a "replacement" for good supervision. it should be in ADDITION too good supervision.
    I have zero concern with the rights things because non are violated
    It was an expulsion school were the worst students were sent as a last resort. It was in the East Bay of San Fran. Very tough area. Richmond was the murder capital of the USA a couple of times in the 90's if I remember correctly. Mostly gangs. Nothing like the feel good movies where the teacher with good intentions changes everybody for good.

    Where I teach now is vastly different.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    It was an expulsion school were the worst students were sent as a last resort. It was in the East Bay of San Fran. Very tough area. Richmond was the murder capital of the USA a couple of times in the 90's if I remember correctly. Mostly gangs. Nothing like the feel good movies where the teacher with good intentions changes everybody for good.

    Where I teach now is vastly different.

    oooh that explains it better, bet that was pretty damn challenging
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    From the article : "School officials offered to quietly remove the tracking chip from Andrea’s card if the sophomore would agree to wear the new ID without the imbedded RFID chip so as to give the appearance of participation in the Student Locator Project. Andrea refused this offer. "

    Why would that be a violation of her religion? I think it could be a good tool to have in a school shooting situation to help the police be able to locate students hiding in closets and such.
    Because it still gives the impression that she is doing something against her religious beliefs. The impression is as bad as the act for some.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Indeed, do it at birth where apparently violations of rights is ok because you won't remember the pain. At that up to will ensure the child is safe and you have a win win baby.
    Better yet, do it while the baby is in the womb. Apparently they have no rights there.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    They are entitled to as much privacy as we deem appropriate. They are children and under our care. Surely parents understand this concept?
    That is a rather disturbing concept. I try my best to allow my children as much privacy as I can while still acting to keep them safe. Small children demand more care and so less privacy, but older children you can permit to have a great deal of privacy. I guess what I saying is I weigh it on what is needed, not by what I'm willing to give.

    They can expect there bags or their clothing not to be randomly searched but location is far different.
    How is location different? As I said watching children is not tracking them. There is a great deal of difference in fact.

    You babysit? WTF?
    Lol, no.

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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    I have a dreadful feeling it's serious. There's a deeply distrustful paranoid streak running through the American right that goes much further than simple dislike of "big government". The "Mark of the Beast!" nonsense is the icing on the fruitcake.
    This from a man whose citizens are the most spied on people in the world.
    Britain: the most spied on nation in the world - Telegraph

    What next, are you going to tell Americans that they should have nothing to fear from anti-2nd amendment politicians?
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That is a rather disturbing concept. I try my best to allow my children as much privacy as I can while still acting to keep them safe. Small children demand more care and so less privacy, but older children you can permit to have a great deal of privacy. I guess what I saying is I weigh it on what is needed, not by what I'm willing to give.
    That is why I said "as much privacy as we deem appropriate".

    How is location different? As I said watching children is not tracking them. There is a great deal of difference in fact.
    Location at school is important. Knowing where students are and what they are doing is very important.

    Lol, no.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    oooh that explains it better, bet that was pretty damn challenging
    It was ridiculous. The first two weeks I had to block the door in order to stop drug exchanges/deals. While that was happening they were throwing dice in the back. Eventually I got all that calmed down and started some teaching. The principal actually walked in with some visitors and said, "this is great, look, Mr _______ is actually trying to teach". I couldn't believe it.

    We had two kids murdered. Two hung themsleves. Three put into prison. One in a coma as he was nearly beaten to death. The place was a war zone. We had gang bangers assualt students on campus and once a car screached up and a bunch of thugs jumped out and beat the principals car to death with bricks and bats before SWAT was called in and we went into lock down. I was the only white person that I ever saw in the area and at times it was a little nerve racking. Eventually the "kids" liked me as I was in my early thirties and played basket ball with the at lunch. I took the elbows and never made a foul call. They respected that.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    That is why I said "as much privacy as we deem appropriate".
    Perhaps what I said is what you meant, but that is not how it came out.

    Location at school is important. Knowing where students are and what they are doing is very important.
    Yes, undoubtedly, but like I said there is a difference between watching(aka keeping an eye on them) and spying.

    Whew!
    and just what is that supposed to mean? Do you think I have no experience with children? I have been around children my entire life either assisting my mother babysitting growing up or raising my own children. I think I know what it involves, thank you. Are you going to tell me how to educate my children next? That should be wonderful considering all my children could read and write before they started kindergarten.

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