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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    sso basically you dont have an answer?

    teachers would still know their students lol
    I gave you an answer. I said that unsavory types could figure out how to track your kid. Hopefully, they leave the cards at school when they leave for the day. But since there are no lockers anymore, I doubt it.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So that means they have no right to privacy?
    They are entitled to as much privacy as we deem appropriate. They are children and under our care. Surely parents understand this concept?

    Why do students not have an expectation of privacy at school?
    They can expect there bags or their clothing not to be randomly searched but location is far different.

    That is a rather odd question. Do you just walk into the bathroom when a child is in there? Unless they are young and need help I don't. You appear to be a strange man if you say yes to that question.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    I gave you an answer. I said that unsavory types could figure out how to track your kid. Hopefully, they leave the cards at school when they leave for the day. But since there are no lockers anymore, I doubt it.
    im not much worried about your fantasy master hacker pedophile but say one is out there
    track my kid where, on school property during school hours? whats the benefit of that, what can they do with that info?

    also if this master phedophile is out there what is stopping him from doing it now with other things, phones, facebook, cars and other electronic devices? and he could <big gasp> trace thouse things ALL THE TIME and NOT on school property.

    I also like how you add made up stuff that your not even sure off, no lockers, readers at doors etc.

    you havent given me any rational concerns that take aways from the pros of the system
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I am kinda torn, as a teacher. We are responsible for students when they are on campus but this is almost a violation of rights. That said, students don't have "rights" i nthe sense that adults look at the term. We issue passes. Don't allow students the use of the bathroom at times. Have them herded around so to speak, to classes, assemblies and other functions. Etc.

    Students abuse the freedoms that we do give them many times. They break doors and windows. They graffiti walls. They leave campus without permission. They pull the fire alarm ruining hours of academic time. They don't show up for class for many reasons and hide in the toilettes. We are often looking at security cameras hoping to ID certain students.

    Even the best students require passes to go to the library or computer rooms... is an ID Chip really that big of a deal? I don't know. Doesn't seem like that big of a deal.
    Not a teacher but volunteer at my school and I agree, as far as "rights" are concerned nothing changes but it easily could make the school safer and more efficient
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    The simple answer is that if the students themselves object they can do what I did at that age - break the system and it's devices.

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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    im not much worried about your fantasy master hacker pedophile but say one is out there
    track my kid where, on school property during school hours? whats the benefit of that, what can they do with that info?

    also if this master phedophile is out there what is stopping him from doing it now with other things, phones, facebook, cars and other electronic devices? and he could <big gasp> trace thouse things ALL THE TIME and NOT on school property.

    I also like how you add made up stuff that your not even sure off, no lockers, readers at doors etc.

    you havent given me any rational concerns that take aways from the pros of the system
    I like making things up. Haven't you ever played pretend?

    Good.

    Pretend that the parents are going to fork over $75 per kid, per card.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    I like making things up. Haven't you ever played pretend?

    Good.

    Pretend that the parents are going to fork over $75 per kid, per card.
    they dont coast that much my work has them but pretend the other solution, which others suggested here, is hire a few more guards at 30K a year and benefits that would also come out of school taxes (parents pockets)

    next lets pretend that since all the schools are now hiring extra guards theres a chester child molester out there that has a clean record and decides to find work as one. Now he is armed with keys and security codes to your kids school and he watches the camersa all day!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ooooooooOOOOOooooohhh noooooOOOOOOooooooo!


    see i can do it too
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    they dont coast that much my work has them but pretend the other solution, which others suggested here, is hire a few more guards at 30K a year and benefits that would also come out of school taxes (parents pockets)

    next lets pretend that since all the schools are now hiring extra guards theres a chester child molester out there that has a clean record and decides to find work as one. Now he is armed with keys and security codes to your kids school and he watches the camersa all day!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ooooooooOOOOOooooohhh noooooOOOOOOooooooo!


    see i can do it too
    I worked at a school with 100 kids... all expelled, with two guards. That is a pretty damn good ratio. They didn't help at all. There were drugs, fights, weapons, etc. DAILY.

    The more I think about it the more I like the idea of these security cards.

    Not a teacher but volunteer at my school and I agree, as far as "rights" are concerned nothing changes but it easily could make the school safer and more efficient
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    they dont coast that much my work has them but pretend the other solution, which others suggested here, is hire a few more guards at 30K a year and benefits that would also come out of school taxes (parents pockets)

    next lets pretend that since all the schools are now hiring extra guards theres a chester child molester out there that has a clean record and decides to find work as one. Now he is armed with keys and security codes to your kids school and he watches the camersa all day!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ooooooooOOOOOooooohhh noooooOOOOOOooooooo!


    see i can do it too
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

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    WoW! That was good. OK, I'm done pretending now.


    thank you , thank you
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