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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

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    No, of course not.
    then how is this tracker which is used on property and during school hours a violation then ?
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    switch them and do what?

    for example Sam should be in math and switches cards with Greg in gym. the teachers in those classes know who Greg and Sam

    there is still roll call and everything else this is just extra from my understanding, if its not extra then the system is "flawed" and i would be concerned about it but it still doesnt violate rights
    Why would you need role call? The scanner at the door could do that quickly and allow for more minutes of learning.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

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    Why would you need role call? The scanner at the door could do that quickly and allow for more minutes of learning.
    There never was a need for a roll call. Just assign seats, empty seat = student absent or tardy. Very simple and quick.

    Back to kids exchanging cards, etc., no doubt teens will find clever ways to circumvent the system. They're about as good at it as Congress is at circumventing the Constitution. The issue is whether or not it is a violation of privacy rights. I say no, as it affects minors who have no expectation of privacy at school anyway.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

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    There never was a need for a roll call. Just assign seats, empty seat = student absent or tardy. Very simple and quick.

    Back to kids exchanging cards, etc., no doubt teens will find clever ways to circumvent the system. They're about as good at it as Congress is at circumventing the Constitution. The issue is whether or not it is a violation of privacy rights. I say no, as it affects minors who have no expectation of privacy at school anyway.
    Why do students not have an expectation of privacy at school?

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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

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    Why do students not have an expectation of privacy at school?
    because they are minors in the custody of the school, obviously.

    If you are baby sitting children, do you allow them the expectation of privacy?
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    because they are minors in the custody of the school, obviously.
    So that means they have no right to privacy?

    If you are baby sitting children, do you allow them the expectation of privacy?
    That is a rather odd question. Do you just walk into the bathroom when a child is in there? Unless they are young and need help I don't. You appear to be a strange man if you say yes to that question.

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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So that means they have no right to privacy?

    That is a rather odd question. Do you just walk into the bathroom when a child is in there? Unless they are young and need help I don't. You appear to be a strange man if you say yes to that question.
    Do you know the child is in the bathroom when you are babysitting them? After all, all the chip would do is show the child was in the bathroom. It would give no actual image of the child in the bathroom. Only the location of the child.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    Why would you need role call? The scanner at the door could do that quickly and allow for more minutes of learning.
    sso basically you dont have an answer?

    teachers would still know their students lol
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why do students not have an expectation of privacy at school?
    weird you have all these questions but no answers LOL
    bottom line students do not have the right to be anywhere on school property at anytime the want. this doesnt change nor is it impacted by the badge. Tell me how it is?
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    I am kinda torn, as a teacher. We are responsible for students when they are on campus but this is almost a violation of rights. That said, students don't have "rights" i nthe sense that adults look at the term. We issue passes. Don't allow students the use of the bathroom at times. Have them herded around so to speak, to classes, assemblies and other functions. Etc.

    Students abuse the freedoms that we do give them many times. They break doors and windows. They graffiti walls. They leave campus without permission. They pull the fire alarm ruining hours of academic time. They don't show up for class for many reasons and hide in the toilettes. We are often looking at security cameras hoping to ID certain students.

    Even the best students require passes to go to the library or computer rooms... is an ID Chip really that big of a deal? I don't know. Doesn't seem like that big of a deal.
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