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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Is there a reason you directed this at me, or are you addressing the crowd?
    Mostly addressing the crowd, but you're the one who brought up the Texas Pledge, aren't you?

    Do students pledge allegiance to the state of Texas?
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Mostly addressing the crowd, but you're the one who brought up the Texas Pledge, aren't you?

    Do students pledge allegiance to the state of Texas?
    Unfortunately, yes, they do, and apparently you can even be suspended if you don't. Rather silly really.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Unfortunately, yes, they do, and apparently you can even be suspended if you don't. Rather silly really.
    That's just bizarre.

    Do they mention football in their pledge? (just kidding!)
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I don't think it is a conspiracy theory. There is no reason for them to make children wear RFID tags.If they were that concerned about kids skipping school then they can post security guards at the entrances and exits to the building. As far as I know teachers still take attendance at the start of every class and the school will notify parents when their kids have missed classes. As for being able to tell which kids belong to the school or not then they can institute a uniform policy. My nephew's middle school he went to mandated brown khaki pants or shorts, and either a black,dark blue or light blue polo shirt depending on the grade the child was in and those polo shirt colors would change every year.
    I would rather allow children the chance to be individuals. Uniforms are about conformity and stripping individuality and little of anything else. There is no reason schools must do such things.

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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Where are this girl's friends on this issue? When I talk about my g-g-g-generation, it is understood that we were power in numbers. We staged sit-ins in front of the principals office until we successfully achieved the abolition of the damn dress code. I cannot fathom us as HS students wearing snoop tags. Of course they hadn't been invented yet, but if they had been, we would have burned them in unison.

    Of course we had plenty of good paying jobs to choose from after graduation. That meant that we had individual powers above and beyond being crushed under the thumb. We actually didn't have to 'play nice' all of the time.

    I understand all too well why young people today have to spend their whole childhood sucking up to authority, and I don't like it one bit. This also breeds the group of youngsters who save up for tattoos on their faces. They can't play the game.

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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I would rather allow children the chance to be individuals. Uniforms are about conformity and stripping individuality and little of anything else. There is no reason schools must do such things.
    Uniforms identify who belongs at that school and who doesn't. A uniform policy ensures that no one can walk into school wearing something inappropriate simply because the rules don't ban a certain type of attire. Uniforms ensure that no one can wear gang colors or be accused of being in a gang. Uniforms ensure that no one is hassled or harassed because of the way they dress or because of what brand of clothes someone wears.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    Where are this girl's friends on this issue? When I talk about my g-g-g-generation, it is understood that we were power in numbers. We staged sit-ins in front of the principals office until we successfully achieved the abolition of the damn dress code. I cannot fathom us as HS students wearing snoop tags. Of course they hadn't been invented yet, but if they had been, we would have burned them in unison.

    Of course we had plenty of good paying jobs to choose from after graduation. That meant that we had individual powers above and beyond being crushed under the thumb. We actually didn't have to 'play nice' all of the time.

    I understand all too well why young people today have to spend their whole childhood sucking up to authority, and I don't like it one bit. This also breeds the group of youngsters who save up for tattoos on their faces. They can't play the game.

    I was born 30 years too late. My eyes are sore from what I'm seeing.
    Agreed. These children should stand together against this and whatever else that needs crushed.

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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I would rather allow children the chance to be individuals. Uniforms are about conformity and stripping individuality and little of anything else. There is no reason schools must do such things.
    Oh, but there is. Students like to play games with clothing, and press the envelope as far as possible. Dress codes are notoriously difficult to enforce, as it becomes a game for students to see how far they can go.

    Kids are in school for one purpose and one purpose only: To learn. They need to dress in such a way as not to call attention to their manner of dress, as that is a distraction to learning. Teachers and administrators don't need to waste time figuring out what the latest gangland styles may be.

    Further, the argument that dress codes, or even uniforms, are against individuality are just so much hot air. Kids are, and will be individuals, after all regardless of their clothing. Moreover, teens dress not to be individuals, but to conform to whatever their peer group finds cool.

    One day, they will become adults. When that happens, if they have been successful at learning, they will have a job and a boss. The boss will tell them what is and is not appropriate for the workplace, just as the school is doing now. They will have a choice to work elsewhere, just as they now have a choice to go to school elsewhere.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Uniforms identify who belongs at that school and who doesn't. A uniform policy ensures that no one can walk into school wearing something inappropriate simply because the rules don't ban a certain type of attire. Uniforms ensure that no one can wear gang colors or be accused of being in a gang. Uniforms ensure that no one is hassled or harassed because of the way they dress or because of what brand of clothes someone wears.
    Yes, those are the reason people give. Uniforms in and of themselves breed conformity and are the exact opposite of individuality. Everything you said indeed furthers my point in fact.

    gang colors
    identification.
    people being harassed for not fitting in.

    These are all arguments made by someone that wants conformity to the group.

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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    In loco parentis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Parental locus, or in loco parentis, is Latin for in the place of a parent.
    It is a concept where the legal responsibility for a minor child transfers some powers to a individual or an organization (school).
    The logic is tha this transfer of responsibility is necessary for the proper care of the child.

    In other words, since a parent does not need a search warrant based upon probable cause to search their own minor child's room, the child's school is accorded the same powers.

    I sure as Hell don't like the concept, but it is firmly established in common law, and our hands are tied.

    The same defense would also cover the RFID tag issue discussed here.
    Since the RFID concept is radically different, though, I hope that it can be shut down easily and quickly.
    Parents do not use RFID at home, so hopefully in loco parentis cannot be used by schools as a defense.
    hmmmm, wasnt aware of that, thanks but again depending on how its used that doesnt bother me because again, its school property.
    I do think there are cases where a school might over reach but this isnt one of them at least not per my understanding of it. Maybe more will come out.
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