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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Like cameras that are all over the school now and not being challenged? The only difference here is that the chips are not only more individual and more efficient, they are less invasive than the actual cameras, since they don't actually show the image of the child or what they are doing, only where they are, or at least where their ID is, which should be on them at all times.
    I don't recall saying I approve of cameras.

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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Since he or she had no choice to be there in the first place I don't think I care much.
    And that's the problem.

    They did. Your point?
    It doesn't work, so they came up with RFID as a solution.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    And that's the problem.
    That I don't care for their ridiculous law that fines people for breaking it? Yes, declare it so then.

    It doesn't work, so they came up with RFID as a solution.
    I thought they came up with cameras and when that failed they came up with RFID. Interesting..

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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So body sovereignty is below these matters? If you don't respect the body sovereignty of your children then do not respect your children.
    Yes it is. If they choose to take it out when they become adults, that's fine. Until then they are my responsibility and property.

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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That I don't care for their ridiculous law that fines people for breaking it? Yes, declare it so then.
    No, that people just don't care in general. Their privacy means absolutely jack **** when they're at school. They have a job to do just like every other regular jack off in this country, and that's to receive an education so they don't wind up as worthless bums.


    I thought they came up with cameras and when that failed they came up with RFID. Interesting..
    Well, we could have electric fences and armed guards, but that didn't go over too well.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I don't recall saying I approve of cameras.
    You may not approve of them, but they are in place in schools and it is not likely that they will ever be ruled as unconstitutional.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Yes it is. If they choose to take it out when they become adults, that's fine. Until then they are my responsibility and property.
    Children are not property. The fact of the matter is you have really no excuse to do anything with their body unless its a matter of their health(shots, surgeries, etc) or their everyday maintenance(hair, nails, baths, etc.) Removing body parts that are healthy, or putting in foreign objects outside of health issues are not included.

    Your job as a parent is to keep your children free from harm while maintaining their rights as individuals. Sadly, due their position parents are given the job to maintain their health which calls for certain restrictions on their body sovereignty, but this only permits acts of necessity or maintenance.
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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    No, that people just don't care in general. Their privacy means absolutely jack **** when they're at school. They have a job to do just like every other regular jack off in this country, and that's to receive an education so they don't wind up as worthless bums.
    Ah..so their privacy means nothing because they have a job to do. What an odd concept really.


    Well, we could have electric fences and armed guards, but that didn't go over too well.
    Yes, because schools are not prisons.

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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Ah..so their privacy means nothing because they have a job to do. What an odd concept really.
    They're wards of state from 8am to 3pm.

    Yes, because schools are not prisons.
    No, they're government institutions, where accountability is of the highest importance.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    Re: Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    While I don't see this as having eschatological religious implications per se, nontheless I oppose this RFID tracking business... it is just too intrusive, even for High School.


    If I were prone to conspiracy theory, I might say something like "get 'em used to it in school for a generation or two, then they won't kick up as much fuss when you make it mandatory for adults too."

    I don't think it is a conspiracy theory. There is no reason for them to make children wear RFID tags.If they were that concerned about kids skipping school then they can post security guards at the entrances and exits to the building. As far as I know teachers still take attendance at the start of every class and the school will notify parents when their kids have missed classes. As for being able to tell which kids belong to the school or not then they can institute a uniform policy. My nephew's middle school he went to mandated brown khaki pants or shorts, and either a black,dark blue or light blue polo shirt depending on the grade the child was in and those polo shirt colors would change every year.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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