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    Repubs Pushing Tax Credit for Fetuses After Eliminating Tax Credit for Children

    LANSING - Today Lansing Republicans held a hearing on House Bills 5684 and 5685 in the Tax Policy Committee, which would give a tax credit for unborn fetuses past 12 weeks of gestation. After Lansing Republicans eliminated a state tax credit for parents with children last year, these bills would send a clear message to parents that “your kids don’t count.” The nonpartisan House Fiscal Agency estimates that the bills will cost taxpayers $5-10 MILLION on an annual basis.

    Lansing Republicans Pushing Tax Credit for Fetuses After Eliminating Tax Credit for Children - Progress Michigan



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    Re: Repubs Pushing Tax Credit for Fetuses After Eliminating Tax Credit for Children

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    LANSING - Today Lansing Republicans held a hearing on House Bills 5684 and 5685 in the Tax Policy Committee, which would give a tax credit for unborn fetuses past 12 weeks of gestation. After Lansing Republicans eliminated a state tax credit for parents with children last year, these bills would send a clear message to parents that “your kids don’t count.” The nonpartisan House Fiscal Agency estimates that the bills will cost taxpayers $5-10 MILLION on an annual basis.

    Lansing Republicans Pushing Tax Credit for Fetuses After Eliminating Tax Credit for Children - Progress Michigan

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    Pro-life people should voluntarily split themselves into two crowds: People who care about unborn children and born people vs those who care about unborn children and don't care if you die homeless in the streets once you're out of the womb. It seems a great many Republicans are the later crowd except that they don't think neonatal care is important if it's not their unborn kid.
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    Re: Repubs Pushing Tax Credit for Fetuses After Eliminating Tax Credit for Children

    Makes you wonder about Michigan water.

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    Re: Repubs Pushing Tax Credit for Fetuses After Eliminating Tax Credit for Children

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    This is why the conservatives will continue to lose elections.

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    Yes, you're so right.
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    Re: Repubs Pushing Tax Credit for Fetuses After Eliminating Tax Credit for Children

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    which would give a tax credit for unborn fetuses past 12 weeks of gestation. After Lansing Republicans eliminated a state tax credit for parents with children last year,
    See bold.



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    Re: Repubs Pushing Tax Credit for Fetuses After Eliminating Tax Credit for Children

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    This is why the conservatives will continue to lose elections.
    Really? Context dropping hackery designed to paint the "other" as a demon is why?

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    Re: Repubs Pushing Tax Credit for Fetuses After Eliminating Tax Credit for Children

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    LANSING - Today Lansing Republicans held a hearing on House Bills 5684 and 5685 in the Tax Policy Committee, which would give a tax credit for unborn fetuses past 12 weeks of gestation. After Lansing Republicans eliminated a state tax credit for parents with children last year, these bills would send a clear message to parents that “your kids don’t count.” The nonpartisan House Fiscal Agency estimates that the bills will cost taxpayers $5-10 MILLION on an annual basis.

    Lansing Republicans Pushing Tax Credit for Fetuses After Eliminating Tax Credit for Children - Progress Michigan

    This is why the conservatives will continue to lose elections.

    Care for a clump of cells; hate the born child.
    Sneaky back-door attempt to limit abortions:

    “This is really a backdoor way of passing extreme personhood legislation, which has been rejected by voters in states across the country. Even worse, this would create a special new tax credit for unborn fetuses, after Lansing Republicans eliminated the tax credit for living, breathing children last year. It’s time for our elected leaders to get their priorities straight and start working together to create good jobs and improve education.”
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    Re: Repubs Pushing Tax Credit for Fetuses After Eliminating Tax Credit for Children

    This is really a backdoor way of passing extreme personhood legislation, which has been rejected by voters in states across the country.
    Many states have laws regarding murdering a pregnant woman. State vs. federal tax issues and personhood semantics aside, how can dems be against a tax credit for pregnant women?

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    Re: Repubs Pushing Tax Credit for Fetuses After Eliminating Tax Credit for Children

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Many states have laws regarding murdering a pregnant woman. State vs. federal tax issues and personhood semantics aside, how can dems be against a tax credit for pregnant women?
    Well, the whole thing aside? How can Democrats be for it? What stupid legislation.
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    Re: Repubs Pushing Tax Credit for Fetuses After Eliminating Tax Credit for Children

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Well, the whole thing aside? How can Democrats be for it? What stupid legislation.
    The whole thing? While I can see state vs. federal taxes being an aspect of foremost importance (see my previous post in this thread), and despite that being put aside (presumably in the name of hackery) by the OP article, I don't see the personhood semantics as being a real issue, given the murder laws already in place and the specifics of RvW.

    Isn't "the whole thing" providing reasonable help to people truly in need of a boost? Concentrating on the state/fed conflict and nuance, and semantics, seems more to me to be setting "the whole thing" aside.



    Of course, we could just ignore the whole thing (meaning, really, everything) and go with "republicans are stupid and evil". Generally, that's more fun than laying an event/issue bare.
    Last edited by ecofarm; 11-22-12 at 09:16 PM.

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