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    The Sad End of the Priestly Ministry of Mr. Roy Bourgeois

    The Sad End of the Priestly Ministry of Mr. Roy Bourgeois - U.s. - Catholic Online

    As a priest during 2008, Mr. Bourgeois participated in the invalid ordination of a woman and a simulated Mass in Lexington, Kentucky. With patience, the Holy See and the Maryknoll Society have encouraged his reconciliation with the Catholic Church.

    Instead, Mr. Bourgeois chose to campaign against the teachings of the Catholic Church in secular and non-Catholic venues. This was done without the permission of the local U.S. Catholic Bishops and while ignoring the sensitivities of the faithful across the country. Disobedience and preaching against the teaching of the Catholic Church about women's ordination led to his excommunication, dismissal and laicization.
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    Re: The Sad End of the Priestly Ministry of Mr. Roy Bourgeois

    thank you for the post. i did not realize someone with such balls and genuine convictions remained within the catholic church
    this commenter (Sue) made excellent observations:
    I am curious how someone can engage in "robust discussion" if we cannot advocate positions that oppose teachings of the Catholic Church. That seems like "robust discussion" where the church tells us what we can and cannot say. This appears to be the problem that Roy Bourgeois encountered. He was not permitted to preach what he sees as right. If a church leader cannot speak truth to power, then the church loses one of its most significant voices that may advocate renewal and improvement. When people are told what to think and what to say, then the church becomes ossified and dogmatic and unable to change when change would make the church better. I admire and respect the Catholic Church for its stances against poverty and hunger, for environmental preservation, against unjust war, and against the death penalty. I think we need a strong and vibrant church. By kicking out dissenters like Roy Bourgeois, the church weakens itself and makes itself less vibrant and less meaningful for people. The church teaches that we must listen to conscience. Roy Bourgeois listened to his conscience, followed what he thought God was telling him, and got kicked out of his position in the church for it. It's a sad day for the church. If the church keeps kicking out the best leaders, the church will wither and die away.
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    Re: The Sad End of the Priestly Ministry of Mr. Roy Bourgeois

    There is a minority tradition of brave Catholic priests speaking out against the Vatican and speaking up for what's right. Liberation theologians are a case in point. Bourgeois is in that tradition.

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    What you call "brave" is also disobedient. From the OP's link:

    Disobedience and preaching against the teaching of the Catholic Church about women's ordination led to his excommunication, dismissal and laicization. Then Fr. Bourgeois engaged in an obstinate crusade which involved public and direct defiance of the Holy See and a repudiation of the unbroken teaching of the Magisterium of the Catholic Church concerning sacred ordination.

    The Sad End of the Priestly Ministry of Mr. Roy Bourgeois - U.s. - Catholic Online

    This is terribly sad, and I hope that Mr. Bourgeois will eventually reconcile himself or at least find a denomination that suits him.

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    Re: The Sad End of the Priestly Ministry of Mr. Roy Bourgeois

    As much as I disagree with the church's stance on women, I don't think they're in the wrong here. If I went and disagreed with the core business principles of my employer, I'd get fired too. They can make their own decisions about who can be a priest.

    That said, they're making a mistake. But that's not my problem.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    As much as I disagree with the church's stance on women, I don't think they're in the wrong here. If I went and disagreed with the core business principles of my employer, I'd get fired too. They can make their own decisions about who can be a priest.

    That said, they're making a mistake. But that's not my problem.
    So you believe being a Christian is like being an employee? I'd be more compelled if you equated them to being customers buying a product.

    Which is, in the end, what they're doing.

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    Remember the Galileo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
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    Re: The Sad End of the Priestly Ministry of Mr. Roy Bourgeois

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    What you call "brave" is also disobedient. From the OP's link:

    Disobedience and preaching against the teaching of the Catholic Church about women's ordination led to his excommunication, dismissal and laicization. Then Fr. Bourgeois engaged in an obstinate crusade which involved public and direct defiance of the Holy See and a repudiation of the unbroken teaching of the Magisterium of the Catholic Church concerning sacred ordination.

    The Sad End of the Priestly Ministry of Mr. Roy Bourgeois - U.s. - Catholic Online

    This is terribly sad, and I hope that Mr. Bourgeois will eventually reconcile himself or at least find a denomination that suits him.
    Only disobedient in the RCC view, which is their very slanted view of the world.

    There needs to be more Catholics who stand up to the RCC's 'good old boys' method of governance.
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