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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    The space for the displays in Santa Monica were rented / paid for by the groups / individuals who put those displays up.
    The City of Santa Monica cited financial reasons for discontinuing the event, I'm guessing the cost of administering and operating it far exceeded the rentals taken in.

    So yes, the tax payers of SM were paying for it.

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    The City of Santa Monica cited financial reasons for discontinuing the event, I'm guessing the cost of administering and operating it far exceeded the rentals taken in.

    So yes, the tax payers of SM were paying for it.
    When you've got more than a guess, let us know.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    "Running rampant" might be a bit much if you were to take into consideration places where religious extremists really do run rampant over the population -- but it is beyond denial that Christians have been very politically active here in the United States, many Christians go out of their way to paint our nation as historically Christian, and many laws have been proposed and/or passed under the guise that the United States is a Christian nation.
    Yes, Christians have been very active in The United States since it inception, and the country has been the better for it.

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    The City of Santa Monica cited financial reasons for discontinuing the event, I'm guessing the cost of administering and operating it far exceeded the rentals taken in.

    So yes, the tax payers of SM were paying for it.
    From the OP:

    Churches are going to federal court to reclaim their freedom of speech after the city of Santa Monica, Calif., decided to end a nearly 60-year tradition of having Christian displays of the nativity in a public park due to an uproar caused by atheists' anti-God signs.
    Read more at Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    So, was the issue that taxpayers were losing money, or that atheists objected to the Christmas displays? Is the war between atheists and Christians over December 25 real, or is it just a matter of the city not wanting to rent space because they were losing money? I'm getting confused here. I'm not even sure what the current score really is.
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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Nothing to be divorced. All men are responsible for there own actions. God will judge, not control us like little Christian robots. Of course this has nothing to do with anything I said.



    Inspired, lets look at the definition shall we?

    in·spired   [in-spahyuhrd] Show IPA adjective
    1. aroused, animated, or imbued with the spirit to do something, by or as if by supernatural or divine influence: an inspired poet.
    2. resulting from such inspiration: an inspired poem; an inspired plan.
    3. inhaled: inspired air.
    - Inspired | Define Inspired at Dictionary.com

    So please point out where in the definition it says God wrote it, as you are trying desperately to imply that is what Christians think. We know it was written by men, if inspired by God. Even the Bible itself says through dreams, says nothing about forcing anyone to write anything.



    Again with more personal attacks? Last resort of a limited intellect in the arena of debate, but I digress.

    So you are saying you don't understand the concept that no universal view of God exists? Well it's the reason we have...

    Catholics, Baptists, Baha'i, Muslims, Pagans of all types including wiccans etc. As many different views of God as there are people on the earth.
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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, Christians have been very active in The United States since it inception, and the country has been the better for it.
    Cephus' point was that Christians have been far more than "very active," they've used their perception that the United States is a "Christian nation" to justify the use of their collective influence (which is dramatically out of proportion with the segment that the religious right actually constitutes) to shove their religion-stepped political agenda down the throats of their neighbors. That's what Cephus calls "running rampant," and he's pleased to see that being slowly and gradually reigned in.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    Did your team lose today?
    Do you have anything to contribute? Or are you just going to go further off topic?

    So far you have shown nothing to refute even 1 point I have made. Not that you could, but since this thread is not about you, I will end it here and move on.

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Cephus' point was that Christians have been far more than "very active," they've used their perception that the United States is a "Christian nation" to justify the use of their collective influence (which is dramatically out of proportion with the segment that the religious right actually constitutes) to shove their religion-stepped political agenda down the throats of their neighbors. That's what Cephus calls "running rampant," and he's pleased to see that being slowly and gradually reigned in.
    How do you feel Christians have negatively effected the United States and how would the beliefs of atheists have improved the country?

    In fact this might be a good time to explain what atheists believe and the positive effect their beliefs might have had on the development of the United States.

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No, there is no copyright on the sentiment but few others express it.

    If atheists have an alternate message on how to treat their fellow man, I'd be pleased to hear it.
    Only christians express peace, goodwill or charity?

    As I've said, the arrogance and hubris of christians is awesome.

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    If that's so, then the atheists have no case at all, do they?

    Why don't atheists pick out a holiday of their own to promote their belief system? December 25 is taken already. It may originally have belonged to the Pagans, but Christians preempted it centuries ago. It really shouldn't matter, as there are still 364 and a quarter other days to choose from.
    Since Dec 25thi is historically a pagan holiday, maybe the Xstians should give it up?

    Why would Xstians have veto power over anyone else wanting to use 12-25 as a feast day?

    Again, the arrogance and hubris of Xstians knows no bounds.

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