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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    All they did was exercise their constitutional right to freedom of expression, the same as the churches. But people, I'm assuming backers of the churches, didn't like their message so they defaced their displays. No church displays were vandalized. The City cancelled the displays because it just didn't want to deal with the BS.

    It was the vandalism that predicated the action. The people who committed the vandalism have no one to blame but themselves.
    The atheists knew what they were doing. Theirs wasn't a message of good will, or of giving, but one of intolerance. Again, I am not saying that the vandals are excusable, but I am not letting the atheists off the hook.
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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    These atheist are what give us a bad name. You can't stand to see a nativity scene? Really? You going to get Christmas banned altogether? The whole holiday is based on pagan foundations, so to fight any part of the holiday is to effectively fight the entire holiday. It's silly, it's petty, and it's not what any decent atheist would/should do. Pathetic.
    Did you read this? This was shut down because people didn't like the atheists display. The theists vandalizes the atheists displays and that's why this was shut down.

    Now.I think that religious displays on public property are fine, I don't have a problem. But.that door swings both ways. I don't see the point of making a display to mock religion over Christmas, but it's not my place to stop it. It's a free country. But this one ain't our fault. Lay blame where blame is due.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    The fact that they flooded the city for spaces in the park, while not illegal, is ridiculous. Their message isn't one of christmas cheer, or in any way supporting the season, it was merely an anti-religious message. They turned what used to be a nice trip for a family to take to get in the spirit and turned it into a spectacle. It's a park, it's a Christmas display, have a damn heart.
    Free ****ing country!!!:
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    easy question deserves an easy answer
    it stops when there is no more governmental participation/endorsement
    This wasn't infringing on anybodies rights. It was a church being allowed to display a nativity scene at a public park. Let's not turn this into a referendum on religion violating our constitutional rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    but it is much more fun to blame the victim
    Yea, the atheists are the victims. They didn't get to protest the nativity scene. Boo hoo. What about the families that took their children down to that park for the last 60 years?
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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Did you read this? This was shut down because people didn't like the atheists display. The theists vandalizes the atheists displays and that's why this was shut down.

    Now.I think that religious displays on public property are fine, I don't have a problem. But.that door swings both ways. I don't see the point of making a display to mock religion over Christmas, but it's not my place to stop it. It's a free country. But this one ain't our fault. Lay blame where blame is due.
    Prove it was a theist.

    I am not saying that the atheists were legally wrong, but morally they are.
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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Free ****ing country!!!:

    Explain that to the children who don't get to enjoy the nativity scenes down at the park anymore.
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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    There is no denying that atheists cannot stand for others to have the faith in God that the atheists lack. Actually, it's far beyond that, atheists are enraged that others have faith. Atheists are always on the attack. Much of that rage and hate appears to be the pathology of the homosexuals who have been demanding others not have faith for 40 years, but there is more.

    Why would that be? Why wouldn't atheists simply mind their own business and keep their lack of beliefs to themselves and not worry about what others believe? Contrary to their constant braying, atheists are not inconvenienced by the fact that others display their faith. Often their mantra is separation of church and state or some other such terrible event that will happen if others are allowed to have faith in God.

    Atheists are truly pitiful, doomed creatures with nothing of substance to offer civilized society. The rest of us thank God that we are not in those circumstances.
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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    I'm not holding your hand through this conversation.
    Freedom of.expression. This isn't hard. Theists as well as atheists have it. Just be cause atheists voice their beliefs does not mean others may encroach. And that is 100% what's going on here.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    The atheists knew what they were doing. Theirs wasn't a message of good will, or of giving, but one of intolerance. Again, I am not saying that the vandals are excusable, but I am not letting the atheists off the hook.
    Well, let's take a look at those hateful displays.

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    Atheist-Sign-in-Santa-Monica.jpg

    12_19_2011_nativity_sign.jpg

    ap_santa_monica_atheist_nativity_damon_vix_ll_121119_wblog.jpg

    A quote from Jefferson and Kennedy and wishing people a happy solstice. Now the last one was a little in your face but it still is just expressing an opinion about myths. There's no constitutional right against being offended.

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    Explain that to the children who don't get to enjoy the nativity scenes down at the park anymore.
    The theists did that by vandalizing atheist expression. Jesus tap dancing christ on a pogo stick.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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