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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Touchdown.,... Christians!

    yaaaaaay!

    Waronchristmas bowl: Christians 7, Atheists, 0.
    It seems to me that the touchdown got called back for an illegal play and in the process the Christians lost 15 yards

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Im not an overly religious person...I dont go to church and I dont push religion on anyone else...I find atheists repugnant...and I find them so because they try to force what they want down everyones throat while whining incessantly that religion is doing it to them...you dont like nativity scenes...then dont friggin look at them..
    If you don't like atheist signs, don't read them.

    BTW What is "not overly religious"? Does that mean you're a christian but don't shoot abortion doctors?

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    If you don't like atheist signs, don't read them.

    BTW What is "not overly religious"? Does that mean you're a christian but don't shoot abortion doctors?
    Ill tell you whats not overly religious...a nativity scene...and I was not complaining about atheist signs...

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    If you don't like atheist signs, don't read them.

    BTW What is "not overly religious"? Does that mean you're a christian but don't shoot abortion doctors?
    Apparently, "not overly religious" in this case means still going along with the deranged sense of entitlement, paranoia, and persecution complex of a dominant privileged population (i.e. groups like that pushing the nativity scene in a public place who then whine and scream bloody murder when others attempt to pursue their own right to put up their own display), participating in bigotry (lumping in all atheists together instead of acknowledging their massive variation in principle and conduct...but then of course not shooting abortion doctors (you gotta have SOME limits).
    I've moved on to a better forum (scienceforums.net). Facts matter, and I don't have the time or energy for putting up with the pretense that they don't. PM me if you'd like me to get in touch with you when I'm done developing my own forum system, likely towards the end of 2013.

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Ill tell you whats not overly religious...a nativity scene...and I was not complaining about atheist signs...
    Is this supposed to be sarcasm or an indication of cluelessness?
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    First of all, am I the only one that caught this:

    "Following the December 2011 controversy, the Santa Monica City Council voted in June to bar any future unattended private displays in Palisades Park, including Christmas crèches <I have no idea what this means btw> or atheist exhibits, regardless of content."

    No one was even banned from putting up a display. What was banned is putting up an unattended display.

    And there is no case of discrimination or even free speech violation here. The city doesn't have to allow people to put up scenes of any kind on public property, even if they allowed them to do so in the past. Most particularly if they can prove that leaving up unattended displays attracts illegal activity, i.e. vandalism, in the park and could leave the city liable for any damage done to the property of those who are allowed to leave things up in the park.

    Now, I do think that some of the signs were inappropriate, but that is still their right to do so and should not make a difference to the other actions that occurred. Had I organized the sign thing, I would have left it to signs about other things, but that is just me. This guy won the right to put up his signs, fair and square. The same exact actions would have occurred had none of the "religion questioning" signs been displayed. Considering the vandalized signs/displays that we have seen weren't those that questioned religion, it is safe to assume that vandalism would have occurred if all of them would have been simply non-Christian messages or non-Abrahamic religious messages. Which would have still led to the same consequences.

    My opinion is I'd rather have nothing displayed in a park to begin with. I find parks to be pretty without huge displays set up in them. And it makes it worse that all those had cages around them. It looked stupid. I think the city's decision was a good one. Everyone can just find private property to put up their beliefs/signs/displays on, and it will probably look better than what was up in the park. Especially since people tend to care much more about how something looks if it is on their property than if it is on public property.
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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Is this supposed to be sarcasm or an indication of cluelessness?
    Im most always clueless

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Ill tell you whats not overly religious...a nativity scene...and I was not complaining about atheist signs...
    You don't find a life size 120 foot nativity diorama to be overly religious?

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    You don't find a life size 120 foot nativity diorama to be overly religious?
    If its just sitting there...and no one is hawking me to go to church or convert...NO it doesnt bother me...doesnt bother me like watching a group of atheists stand around a statue of satan..as long as they dont hawk me..........I just walk right past both of them and pay them no mind

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    If its just sitting there...and no one is hawking me to go to church or convert...NO it doesnt bother me...doesnt bother me like watching a group of atheists stand around a statue of satan..as long as they dont hawk me..........I just walk right past both of them and pay them no mind
    In public Palisades Park on Ocean Ave in Santa Monica?

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