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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    #1 Obviously not and accusations of such are.nothing more than dishonest deflection
    Not accusations but fact. Since you want to skip what I actually pointed out to you. I will put it here for you...

    Yes you played the race card with the whole "blacks voting" thing. I am being perfectly honest, my argument has nothing to do with a misdemeanor crime of vandalism. As I have already stated we don't know who did it, not a clue as no evidence exist. Now it may have been Christians, but maybe not. It mite have been atheists trying to make Christians look bad. We don't know. This is why my argument has nothing to do with the law or free speech or any other nonsense not based on a little thing we call facts.

    Now that we have set forth we have no idea who vandalized. I go back to my original statement which has nothing to do with the law, rights or any other legal aspect...

    Both sides were being childish asses.

    As soon as you know who did the vandalism, come back and see me, lol.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    What sign?
    Go back and read the article.
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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Not accusations but fact. Since you want to skip what I actually pointed out to you. I will put it here for you...

    Yes you played the race card with the whole "blacks voting" thing. I am being perfectly honest, my argument has nothing to do with a misdemeanor crime of vandalism. As I have already stated we don't know who did it, not a clue as no evidence exist. Now it may have been Christians, but maybe not. It mite have been atheists trying to make Christians look bad. We don't know. This is why my argument has nothing to do with the law or free speech or any other nonsense not based on a little thing we call facts.

    Now that we have set forth we have no idea who vandalized. I go back to my original statement which has nothing to do with the law, rights or any other legal aspect...

    Both sides were being childish asses.

    As soon as you know who did the vandalism, come back and see me, lol.
    That's not playing the race card it's an example of people.exercising rights and facing retribution for doing so. Civil rights woman's suffrage, etc. It's applicable since your argument revolves.around those who exercise their rights being responsible for the retribution they may face for doing so. That shouldn't need explanation.
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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That's not playing the race card it's an example of people.exercising rights and facing retribution for doing so. Civil rights woman's suffrage, etc.
    As if that is even remotely connected in any way to anything i said. Yes you played the race card.

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    It's applicable since your argument revolves.around those who exercise their rights being responsible for the retribution they may face for doing so. That shouldn't need explanation.
    Again my argument has nothing at all to do with rights, nothing at all. So no.
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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by cmakaioz View Post
    But it IS. You are persistently arguing in favor of SPECIAL privileges to use a public space, rather than equal rights to a public space.



    The atheists in question aren't acting entitled at all. Their actions contested another group which IS acting entitled (and your position is, in effect, supporting that false sense of entitlement).



    The only major obvious problem with that being that they didn't ruin anything at all.

    Get this through your head. In actual FACT, the atheists didn't vandalize, destroy, or remove any part of anyone else's display.

    Is this getting through? Anyone home?

    If, by YOUR reasoning, the mere presence of a contrary viewpoint somehow "ruins" a display...then we can just as easily say that the nativity display "ruins" the atheist display by its mere presence.

    If you don't see that implication, then that indicates that you are continuing to treat the nativity scene (despite your protestation) as being entitled to special protections or insulation from contrary views.



    NO ONE RUINED THE NATIVITY DISPLAY. You keep posting as if something was done to the display. That simply didn't happen. The nativity display was completely unharmed. Later, it was removed along with ALL the displays in response to vandalism against the display of the atheists.



    NOTHING WAS TAKEN. Again, your posts are becoming more hysterical despite clear access to information which disproves your claims.

    The Facts:
    Multiple displays by atheists were vandalized.
    The nativity display was unharmed.
    The displays -- all of them -- were removed by order of the city government in response to vandalism against the atheist displays.

    Your Position:
    It was a "dick move" on the part of the atheists to "ruin" the Nativity display.

    Problem:
    The atheists *didn't do anything at all to the nativity display*.

    Do you see the disconnect here?
    You're obviously looking at this from completely biased glasses. So you're an atheist, congrats, there are many of us. Some of us are dicks and don't mind canceling a nativity scene tradition that has been going on for 60 years, and some of us respect others enough to just ignore the scene as we walk by. I have no problem with the Happy Festivus signs and other seasonal signs the atheists put up. But to put a sign denouncing Christianity right next to a nativity scene is petty, pathetic, and something we as human being should be above doing.

    What next? Follow Santa in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade with a big sign telling the children he isn't real?
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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    This is a crazy amount of bs
    Believe what you want. I protest with a purpose, not to be a dick. People like Dix are why my daughter can't wear a halloween costume to school anymore.
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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Why is it wrong to put the blame where it lies? My bet is that if the vandalism hadn't happened, the displays would have remained up, both sides would have had their say, and a week from now nobody would have remembered the incident.

    I have more of an issue with Westboro, I think they are despicable in their message, but I wonder what would have happened if they had bought the spaces.

    City cancelled due to vandalism and not wanting to deal with the BS.
    I am not arguing about the city shutting down the display, it was the right call in light of the vandalism. I blame whomever vandalized the signs for the shutting down. My argument is with the atheists who decided to make this a time to display their anti-religion message.
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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That's not playing the race card it's an example of people.exercising rights and facing retribution for doing so. Civil rights woman's suffrage, etc. It's applicable since your argument revolves.around those who exercise their rights being responsible for the retribution they may face for doing so. That shouldn't need explanation.
    Comparing these people exercising their rights to the Civil Rights or womans suffrage movement is a joke.
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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    Believe what you want. I protest with a purpose, not to be a dick. People like Dix are why my daughter can't wear a halloween costume to school anymore.
    Why can't your daughter wear a costume to school?

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    Why can't your daughter wear a costume to school?
    Because some parent was offended. They believe Halloween to be satanic and they didn't want their kid exposed to that.
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