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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    These atheist are what give us a bad name. You can't stand to see a nativity scene? Really? You going to get Christmas banned altogether? The whole holiday is based on pagan foundations, so to fight any part of the holiday is to effectively fight the entire holiday. It's silly, it's petty, and it's not what any decent atheist would/should do. Pathetic.
    Im an atheist and my reply to this whole thing is fehhh! I dont care. However, i think the atheists here are standing on principle and not "ohhh my gawd! look! it's a nativity scene. I must look the other way kind of thing.

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    I'm not abdicating blame of those who vandalized the signs. But don't think that the atheists didn't know what they were doing.
    The atheists were posting THEIR message which was THEIR right. Those that vandalized could have ignored it. Sorry but it works both ways. If it's there LEGALLY, then if you don't like it ignore it.

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    Im an atheist and my reply to this whole thing is fehhh! I dont care. However, i think the atheists here are standing on principle and not "ohhh my gawd! look! it's a nativity scene. I must look the other way kind of thing.
    And what principle is that? The one where they shouldn't have to walk done the street and see anything remotely religious because it offends them? Look, I am an atheist also, but I fight when religion actually encroaches on my rights. When they try and do away with evolution in school and replace it with creationism. That's a fight. Raising a stink about a nativity scene in a public park? That's just petty and pathetic.
    Hail to the King baby!

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    And what principle is that? The one where they shouldn't have to walk done the street and see anything remotely religious because it offends them? Look, I am an atheist also, but I fight when religion actually encroaches on my rights. When they try and do away with evolution in school and replace it with creationism. That's a fight. Raising a stink about a nativity scene in a public park? That's just petty and pathetic.
    I'm sorry, what stink did they raise?

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    I'm sorry, what stink did they raise?
    I'm not holding your hand through this conversation.
    Hail to the King baby!

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    And what principle is that? The one where they shouldn't have to walk done the street and see anything remotely religious because it offends them? Look, I am an atheist also, but I fight when religion actually encroaches on my rights. When they try and do away with evolution in school and replace it with creationism. That's a fight. Raising a stink about a nativity scene in a public park? That's just petty and pathetic.

    Dont get me wrong, i really dont care about this story. This is very trivial and not worth any fight.
    I think they are just pointing out that there's a law on the books on this and they would like to see it enforced.
    I think they just want the separation of chruch and state to be invoked here.

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    I'm not holding your hand through this conversation.

    All they did was exercise their constitutional right to freedom of expression, the same as the churches. But people, I'm assuming backers of the churches, didn't like their message so they defaced their displays. No church displays were vandalized. The City cancelled the displays because it just didn't want to deal with the BS.

    It was the vandalism that predicated the action. The people who committed the vandalism have no one to blame but themselves.

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    Never said that, my point is where does it stop?
    easy question deserves an easy answer
    it stops when there is no more governmental participation/endorsement
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So because they followed the law, their stuff got vandelized and the city cancelled the practice it's their fault? Sorry, don't see that.

    As much as you want to blame the atheists, it's the fault of those that decided to vandelize.
    but it is much more fun to blame the victim
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Atheist Action Halts Calif. Nativity Display; Churches Go to Court

    Oh look... atheists organizing themselves into taking a united stance... an ideological united stance against a religion, which is also an ideology. Much like a religion would. Amazing. Who would have ever perceived that atheism could start being dogmatic.

    Me. That's who.

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