So free speech as long as it is free speech YOU like.
THAT's what I mean by the privileging of the religious display. The nativity display is NOT any more appropriate (or less) than the display of the atheists.
The rational and consistent answer to such arbitrary nonsense is to anchor the standard to actual harm (instead of taking offense vs. not taking offense, which will be a standard that's different for every individual observer). A display which extended beyond its allotted area (thus blocking the view of neighboring displays) would be DIRECT harm (via interference) to the use of the other displays. A display which doesn't march in ideological lock-step with the dogmas promoted by a neighboring display is not under any obligation -- legally OR ethically -- to tiptoe around such neighbors, or to second-guess choice of content in any manner (beyond the basic obvious things like open calls to demonize or commit violence against X group).
I've moved on to a better forum (scienceforums.net). Facts matter, and I don't have the time or energy for putting up with the pretense that they don't. PM me if you'd like me to get in touch with you when I'm done developing my own forum system, likely towards the end of 2013.
If you have nothing better than fallacy's, you mite as well move on.
No Lives Matter
Wow, just wow.
Here is what I have been saying...
I am saying illegal or not they both contributed and are both stupid. I don't care about which was legal or not. It has nothing at all to do with what I am saying. - Blackdog
Now if you are done trying desperately to make my argument into something it's not?
Nice job dodging and cutting out the rest of my response. Another just wow.
Last edited by Black Dog; 11-21-12 at 03:51 PM.
No Lives Matter
What is the deal with some of these atheist groups? I understand the issue of a captive audience in schools or something of that effect. I actually agree with that. I wouldn't want my kid to be forced to listen to an Islamic or Buddhist sermon in school when he's supposed to be there to learn. However, things such as this are ridiculous in my eyes. Why do some atheists feel the need to put a rebuttal scene up? What difference does it make if the Nativity is there? It's not hurting anyone, you don't have to look at it, and if you or your child accidentally sees it, it's not going to ***gasp*** suddenly convert you. Atheists don't believe there's God. Got it. Why in the world do some of them feel the need to make everyone who does believe in God feel stupid? I've not heard, not once, a good reason that atheists do this. They never say "we want to accomplish X" or "we feel X would happen if we convinced everyone there was no God" then I would see a purpose. Again, I get the not wanting kids to be proselytized to. I don't understand the incessant need of atheists to push religion out of the public eye but putting their beliefs in its place . Isn't doing that exactly what the atheists claim they are against? Forcing your beliefs on someone?
Mr. Speaker, I once again find myself compelled to vote against the annual budget resolution for a very simple reason: it makes government bigger. ― Ron Paul
Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty. Thomas Jefferson
I think its insecurity...the secret fear that they just might be wrong.
attempting to convince people that the virgin birth story is possible
why do that not simply take comfort in the knowledge that their beliefs work for them without having the need to expose their belief system to others
so, why are atheists, or wiccans, or followers of shinto, or subscribers of tao, or any other non-mainstream belief system not entitled to the SAME opportunity to share the stories of their belief system as the Christians feel entitled to promote
You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo
Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville