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    Re: The starving Baker's Union salaries...

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    If all the workers at Hostess would reduce their salaries to $1 for the coming year, we'll be drowning in low cost Twinkies and Ding-Dongs. Indeed, if all Americans would have the patriotism and common decency to work for the next year for just $1, why America will be on top again.

    I'm sure that most Americans can live on the millions they've saved up in the past. Certainly those executives can but don't union workers also get multi-million dollar bonuses? Why are they being so self-centered?
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    Re: The starving Baker's Union salaries...

    Unions were formed to prevent employers from taking advantage of workers but now the unions themselves are the ones taking advantage of the workers. The "union" is more concerned with itself as an entity than the workers it supposedly represents. They make decisions that will hurt their members if in the long run they feel it will promote and protect the union itself.

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    Re: The starving Baker's Union salaries...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    As of March, the top four executives at Hostess will earn $1 each for this year.
    And for the last few years? And their stock options and other such fringes?
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    Re: The starving Baker's Union salaries...

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Bakers’ Union has 8 Vice Presidents and 2 Million in Executive Salaries

    The Bakers’ Union, aka the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers’ International Union (BCTGM), and that’s a mouthful, has kept blaming the plight of Hostess and its Twinkies on company executives who paid themselves too much money.

    “Our members were aware that while the company was descending into bankruptcy and demanding deep concessions, the top 10 executives of the company were rewarding themselves with lavish compensation increases,” Frank Hurt, President of the Bakers’ Union said.

    So let’s take a look at the number of executives in the Bakers’ Union, their salaries and titles. What does a humble baker president like Hurt rake in? A mere $262,654. His assistant, Harry Kaiser has to get by with a mere $149,764.

    The Bakers’ Union (BCTGM) has 58 employees. 29 of them make more than $100,000 a year.
    The Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers’ International Union has 8 Vice Presidents. (One is an Executive Vice-President).
    These 8 Vice Presidents make anywhere from $218,989.00 to $161,789.00 for a combined total of over 2 million dollars. Additionally there’s a Secretary Treasurer who makes $244,396.00.
    Does a union with 58 employees really need 8 Vice Presidents at a ratio of one Vice President to every employee?

    BCTGM also has 12 representatives who make between $100,000 and $150,000. Its highest paid organizer makes $148,851.
    While 18,000 workers may lose their jobs, the Bakers’ Union execs will keep their jobs and their six figure compensation packages. And even if BCTGM folds, they’ll just fetch up in another union.

    Frank Hurt has worked as a Shop Steward at the United Auto Workers, with the Teamsters, a Union Trustee of the AFL-CIO Housing Investment Trust and President of the International Union of Food, Agricultural, Hotel, Restaurant, Catering, Tobacco and Allied Workers’ Associations. Being a union boss is his job and as long as there are unions, there will be high paid compensation packages for union bosses. Companies may go out of business, but guys like Frank Hurt will always land on their quarter-of-a-million a year.

    Bakers’ Union has 8 Vice Presidents and 2 Million in Executive Salaries
    I don't think I see your point. What if the CEO of Hostess was making 500,00, would that make the CEO the worst person in the whole issue? What is the logic, because I am not following it? I guess I should hate unions because of their executives pay, right? I am pretty sure union executives at the top of the union are paid by the union members and NOT paid by Hostess.

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    Re: The starving Baker's Union salaries...

    Here's what happens when you don't have a Union.

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    Unions were in decline for many years. However, from what I see (OPINION FOLLOWS) the Corporations are increasingly taking advantage of our weakened economic status and paying less and less while CEOs are paid more and more. That's not something I'm wishing for but something I see as a response. This worker abuse is very short-sighted but why should a CEO care about the future when he/she is making so much money now. Getting fired when you have 100 million in the bank really isn't all that painful.....

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    Re: The starving Baker's Union salaries...

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And for the last few years? And their stock options and other such fringes?
    Very similar to what the Union bosses are getting. But when figuring in 2012, the top four execs at Hostess (1/5 of the top twenty, and the most well-paid in the group) are not being paid. That is going to drive down the average over a number of years.... since the goal post has now been moved back to "the last few years."
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    Re: The starving Baker's Union salaries...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    Very similar to what the Union bosses are getting. But when figuring in 2012, the top four execs at Hostess (1/5 of the top twenty, and the most well-paid in the group) are not being paid. That is going to drive down the average over a number of years.... since the goal post has now been moved back to "the last few years."
    Please provide a link to those salaries and benefits so we can all check to see if your statement is correct and truthful.
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    Re: The starving Baker's Union salaries...

    The top 10 at Hostess were making anywhere from $182K to $750k, pre-raise. The raise was then turned into ZERO dollars for the top four, and negated for four others. Creditors Question Pay Raises at Hostess Ahead of Bankruptcy Filing - WSJ.com

    From the link on the first page, the top ten union bosses make between $160k-260k. Those are very similar numbers. Further, more than half of the employees working directly for the union, 29 of them, make over $100k a year. I was not able to find numbers on the next twenty at Hostess.
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    Re: The starving Baker's Union salaries...

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    That's so silly. If everyone were making $10 an hour or less, there wouldn't even BE any CEO's. Who'd be buying their products?
    Lol... have you ever been outside the US? How much do you think those kids making Nike shoes in Bangladesh and China get? 10 bucks a shoe or something? It's simple:

    1. find a population
    2. pay them a pittance to make good
    3. sell elsewhere for 10x the operating costs.
    4. profit.

    It's QUITE common. How do you think Wal-Mart has managed to create an empire from 15$ shirts?
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    Re: The starving Baker's Union salaries...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Just sayin its not because of the unions.
    Right! The strike had nothing to do with management's decision.
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