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    Re: Bobby Jindal: GOP Should 'Stop Being The Stupid Party'

    Quote Originally Posted by dyanaprajna2011 View Post
    Says who?
    Really? Says who? Nobody has to say anything. It is a fact! With Big Government there is limited liberty. With Small Government there is abundance of liberty. It is this thing called COMMON SENSE! Sorry, but liberals just don't have an ounce of that.
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT on Nov 8th, 2012 View Post
    Over the next four years the economy will continue to rebound and we will gradually get deficits under control. The real esate market will rebound, unemployment will fall to 6.5% or below, and GDP growth will stand at 3.5 - 4%. We won't be in any wars. And conservatives will still be whining.

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    Re: Bobby Jindal: GOP Should 'Stop Being The Stupid Party'

    Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
    Really? Says who? Nobody has to say anything. It is a fact! With Big Government there is limited liberty. With Small Government there is abundance of liberty. It is this thing called COMMON SENSE! Sorry, but liberals just don't have an ounce of that.
    How is it a fact? Has anyone ever done it right? It seems to me that conservatives, who are so against big government, actually support government programs to limit people's civil liberties. How is that liberty? If you had any common sense, you'd drop that conservative nonsense. Sorry, but I'm not supporting conservatives who want to take away my right to be a Buddhist, or to think on my own, for my own. I'm not supporting conservatives who think that I'm second rate because I'm not a WASP.
    "To do good, to avoid evil, and to purify the mind, this is the teaching of all Buddhas." -the Buddha, from the Dhammapada

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    Re: Bobby Jindal: GOP Should 'Stop Being The Stupid Party'

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    A single service is not big govt. Big govt is when govt is involved in everything. Right sized govt means a govt that has only the powers granted to it in the constitution. Protection of life from violence, and ensuring justice primarily. Controlling peoples bodies, telling people what they can and cant buy is big govt.
    nah....nice try. The Patriot act is pretty big government, Telling women how to used their bodies is big government, telling people who they can and can't marry is pretty big government. Don't try to twist this, Conservatives talk all the time about small government when it comes to guns, financial, economics, and etc. However, they want big government in censorship, military, tax credits for the rich, birth control and I could keep going.

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    Re: Bobby Jindal: GOP Should 'Stop Being The Stupid Party'

    Quote Originally Posted by dyanaprajna2011 View Post
    How is it a fact? Has anyone ever done it right? It seems to me that conservatives, who are so against big government, actually support government programs to limit people's civil liberties. How is that liberty? If you had any common sense, you'd drop that conservative nonsense. Sorry, but I'm not supporting conservatives who want to take away my right to be a Buddhist, or to think on my own, for my own. I'm not supporting conservatives who think that I'm second rate because I'm not a WASP.
    When in the world did I say you shouldn't be a Buddhist!?! What programs do we support that are anti-liberty? I oppose NDAA, Patriot Act, etc.. What are you referring to? What do you mean if you aren't a WASP you don't have liberty. What kind non-sense are you making up here?

    Listen, we want liberty and the pursuit of success for every individual citizen of this nation, that is what Conservatism/Libertarianism is!
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT on Nov 8th, 2012 View Post
    Over the next four years the economy will continue to rebound and we will gradually get deficits under control. The real esate market will rebound, unemployment will fall to 6.5% or below, and GDP growth will stand at 3.5 - 4%. We won't be in any wars. And conservatives will still be whining.

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    Re: Bobby Jindal: GOP Should 'Stop Being The Stupid Party'

    Quote Originally Posted by Vallista View Post
    nah....nice try. The Patriot act is pretty big government,
    I agree...including when the NDAA and NDPA, oh wait...shhhh...Obama signed those in.

    Telling women how to used their bodies is big government,
    Yes, that is. That is why we oppose that. Of course, you always forget the other part of the story..

    telling people who they can and can't marry is pretty big government.
    I know!! I should be able to marry a Dog!!!!

    Don't try to twist this, Conservatives talk all the time about small government when it comes to guns, financial, economics, and etc. However, they want big government in censorship, military, tax credits for the rich, birth control and I could keep going.
    Huh?? You mean forcing people to pay for something they don't believe in? Giving people free stuff just so they can keep the population down in order to save the planet, as Agenda 21 is meant to do??? Oops, I let that one out. That is what your side wants.
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT on Nov 8th, 2012 View Post
    Over the next four years the economy will continue to rebound and we will gradually get deficits under control. The real esate market will rebound, unemployment will fall to 6.5% or below, and GDP growth will stand at 3.5 - 4%. We won't be in any wars. And conservatives will still be whining.

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    Re: Bobby Jindal: GOP Should 'Stop Being The Stupid Party'

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Austin View Post
    Some people mentioned his name for this year. I wonder if he's got an eye on 2016?

    If he does will we get birthers wanting to see his birth certificate?

    If memory serves me right his parents hadnt long got off the plane before he was born.
    That may be one of the silliest things I've read here. Do you REALLY not know the circumstances surrounding Obama that led to questions about his citizenship or are you just playing a convincing game of partisan hackery?

    And for anyone who doesn't know, Bobby jindal was born and grew up in Louisiana.

    Your insinuation that Republicans were, are or would be looking for reasons to disqualify any dark skinned candidate is repugnant

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    Re: Bobby Jindal: GOP Should 'Stop Being The Stupid Party'

    I like Jindal well enough but I think he is misguided. There is no way that anything he has suggested would ever result in the GOP becoming a magnet for Hispanics, single women, blacks or gays. Furthermore, Rush says that even if the GOP were to go "all in" with it's support for alien amnesty and a pathway for illegals to citizenship, that the Dems would ever 'allow' the GOP to effectively recruit those segments of voters. All they'd have to do, Rush says, is to wait for some GOP state senator or a GOP Congressman somewhere to oppose the amnesty program and then Pelosi or Reid or somebody on the left (including the folks at MSDNC) need only announce, "See? The GOP doesn't REALLY support minority inclusion. Their amnesty proposal is just a lie, a scam, window dressing, a ploy to trick you!"

    And just like that all of these well intentioned ideas will be defeated before you could say, boo!

    Jindal's strategy won't work. Let's not pander. Instead, let's focus on highlighting our core beliefs. Spell them out. Sell them and make them the attraction to voters.

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    Re: Bobby Jindal: GOP Should 'Stop Being The Stupid Party'

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Ad hominem.
    I call that merely friendly advice.

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    Re: Bobby Jindal: GOP Should 'Stop Being The Stupid Party'

    Quote Originally Posted by Vallista View Post
    nah....nice try. The Patriot act is pretty big government, Telling women how to used their bodies is big government, telling people who they can and can't marry is pretty big government. Don't try to twist this, Conservatives talk all the time about small government when it comes to guns, financial, economics, and etc. However, they want big government in censorship, military, tax credits for the rich, birth control and I could keep going.
    I agreed with you in part. Notice the libertarian tag in my profile? Military is not big govt though, its right sized govt when its purpose is limited.

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    Re: Bobby Jindal: GOP Should 'Stop Being The Stupid Party'

    If they stop being the "stupid party" who will vote for them, may I ask?

    I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. Voltaire

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