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    Over 470,000 sign petition urging Macy's to dump Donald Trump

    According to the petition, Trump’s crimes against good taste are legion. Among other things, he has:
    – Long engaged in sexist behavior. Trump has a long record of personally attacking women he disagrees [with] by calling them “unattractive,” ugly or fat. He once sent a target a personal note telling her that she has the “face of a dog.”
    – Hypocritically complained about jobs being shipped overseas to China, despite the fact that almost his entire clothing line sold at Macy’s is made in China and other Asian nations.
    – Use his public platform to deny the reality of climate change. Following Hurricane Sandy, Trump publicly declared: “The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.”
    – Perpetuated the racially charged birther conspiracy, repeatedly arguing that President Obama has been lying and was not born in the United States.
    Donald Trump: Macy's urged to fire him | PopWatch | EW.com

    I could care less about Trump, but Im concerned by the disrespect being shown for speech by americans of all ideologies against Trump and many others. While people are of course free to boycott and protest whatever they want, that doesnt mean they should use that freedom to try and silence others. I personally disagree with tons of celebrities, and never once have I suggested that their employers or customers should dump them simply because of the personal views that they hold or opinions that they make publicly.

    Yet, this is happening more and more, primarily against conservatives. And I suspect the usual suspects will soon be in here to offer their opinion of Trump and make my point.

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    Re: Over 470,000 sign petition urging Macy's to dump Donald Trump

    ObamaCare married the Federal government to Corporate America officially, while the bailouts did so financially, as did exempting student loans from bankruptcy and using SWAT teams to collect. People are so going to be required to do business with corporations and the government is already their armed-force bill collector.

    Thus, petitioning major corporations is akin to petitioning government.

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    Re: Over 470,000 sign petition urging Macy's to dump Donald Trump

    I find the 470k pretty highly suspect. Probably a lot like buying 100's of twitter followers. I mean considering only 25,300 signed the white house secession petition.

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    Re: Over 470,000 sign petition urging Macy's to dump Donald Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Donald Trump: Macy's urged to fire him | PopWatch | EW.com

    I could care less about Trump, but Im concerned by the disrespect being shown for speech by americans of all ideologies against Trump and many others. While people are of course free to boycott and protest whatever they want, that doesnt mean they should use that freedom to try and silence others. I personally disagree with tons of celebrities, and never once have I suggested that their employers or customers should dump them simply because of the personal views that they hold or opinions that they make publicly.

    Yet, this is happening more and more, primarily against conservatives. And I suspect the usual suspects will soon be in here to offer their opinion of Trump and make my point.
    How do so many people ban up like that and I don't even hear about it? I didn't even know he was connected to macy's. LOL

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    Re: Over 470,000 sign petition urging Macy's to dump Donald Trump

    He has one of those stupid celeb frangances. I suspect the petition is full of democrats and 90% made up, but its not the point. Is it right for people to pressure employers or customers to sever business deals over political speech? Its one thing to boycott a seafood restauraunt because they sell blood diamonds or a jewelr becuase they sell polar bear cub cake sandwhiches. And another thing to demand someone stop advertising with someone else because that someone else disagrees with their opinion.

    I would never consider demanding MSNBC fire Ed Schultz, or HBO fire Bill Maher. I just dont listen to them.

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    Re: Over 470,000 sign petition urging Macy's to dump Donald Trump

    Hmmm. What interests me is the question of why they care.
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    Re: Over 470,000 sign petition urging Macy's to dump Donald Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Donald Trump: Macy's urged to fire him | PopWatch | EW.com

    I could care less about Trump, but Im concerned by the disrespect being shown for speech by americans of all ideologies against Trump and many others. While people are of course free to boycott and protest whatever they want, that doesnt mean they should use that freedom to try and silence others. I personally disagree with tons of celebrities, and never once have I suggested that their employers or customers should dump them simply because of the personal views that they hold or opinions that they make publicly.

    Yet, this is happening more and more, primarily against conservatives. And I suspect the usual suspects will soon be in here to offer their opinion of Trump and make my point.
    People are free to say whatever they want, and people who don't like what they say are free to choose to boycott them if they so desire. There's nothing in this that is against the law or the constitution. But I'll give you a non-political example. I think it was last year, that several business supporters to a TV station running a program about Muslim life in America pulled their advertising because the show did not paint all Muslims as terrorists. The big company, and the one that took the brunt of the damage in this, was Lowe's. People were upset that they could show such an intolerant attitude, so people boycotted them, signed petitions, sent emails, etc. I was one of those people. Now, Lowe's actually did nothing against the law, in fact, they were free to do as they did. But, how else were others such as myself to get the message across to them that we were not happy about their intolerant and bigoted attitude? Do I not have the right to boycott a company that I see as being intolerant and bigoted? Yes, I do have that right. And the only difference here is that some of Trump's statements and actions (let's not forget that not everything on that list is political), were politically motivated. Here's the kicker: did anyone of those people who wanted Trump fired or boycotted his company say that he did not have the right to say what he did? Not that I'm aware of. And let's not forget that conservatives are not innocent in this regard.
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    Re: Over 470,000 sign petition urging Macy's to dump Donald Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    ObamaCare married the Federal government to Corporate America officially, while the bailouts did so financially, as did exempting student loans from bankruptcy and using SWAT teams to collect. People are so going to be required to do business with corporations and the government is already their armed-force bill collector.

    Thus, petitioning major corporations is akin to petitioning government.
    Sorry to burst your bubble, but the federal government has been married to corporate America long before Obama.
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    Re: Over 470,000 sign petition urging Macy's to dump Donald Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by dyanaprajna2011 View Post
    People are free to say whatever they want, and people who don't like what they say are free to choose to boycott them if they so desire. There's nothing in this that is against the law or the constitution. But I'll give you a non-political example. I think it was last year, that several business supporters to a TV station running a program about Muslim life in America pulled their advertising because the show did not paint all Muslims as terrorists. The big company, and the one that took the brunt of the damage in this, was Lowe's. People were upset that they could show such an intolerant attitude, so people boycotted them, signed petitions, sent emails, etc. I was one of those people. Now, Lowe's actually did nothing against the law, in fact, they were free to do as they did. But, how else were others such as myself to get the message across to them that we were not happy about their intolerant and bigoted attitude? Do I not have the right to boycott a company that I see as being intolerant and bigoted? Yes, I do have that right. And the only difference here is that some of Trump's statements and actions (let's not forget that not everything on that list is political), were politically motivated. Here's the kicker: did anyone of those people who wanted Trump fired or boycotted his company say that he did not have the right to say what he did? Not that I'm aware of. And let's not forget that conservatives are not innocent in this regard.
    I don't think anything will come of this. It is just a protest by alot of angry people over Trump's display of really poor taste.

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    Re: Over 470,000 sign petition urging Macy's to dump Donald Trump

    Any such petition should have a counter part so a more accurate assessment can be made.

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