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    Re: Elmo the Pedophile

    And more . . .

    Question What do Texas laws say regarding statutory rape?
    (From the University of Texas)

    For whatever reason, the offense traditionally known as "statutory rape" is not
    prosecuted very often when the child victim is older than 14 years of age and the sex is
    consensual. However, the laws prohibiting any form of sex with children under the age of
    17 are still on the books, and it is within a prosecutor's discretion as to whether or not he
    or she wishes to pursue such charges against an individual. A cynical person might
    argue that such decisions are usually politically motivated.

    Section 22.011 (a) (2) of the Texas Penal Code provides that a person who has sexual
    relations with a child younger than 17 years of age is guilty of Sexual Assault. Under this
    section of the Penal Code, "sexual relations" may include conventional sexual
    intercourse, oral sex, anal sex and/or oral-anal sex.

    The most important thing to note about this criminal statute is that it does not actually
    require any assault to take place. Thus, an adult who has consensual sex with a child
    under 17 years of age is guilty of Sexual Assault, even if the child was the one who
    initiated the sexual encounter. In addition, it is not a defense to prosecution that the adult
    mistakenly believed that the child was 17 years of age or older.

    This statute does not apply if the adult and child engaging in sexual conduct are legally
    married. Also, if an adult who has sexual relations with a child can show that the child
    was 14 years of age or older at the time of the encounter, and that the adult is no more
    than three years older than the child, he or she cannot be convicted under this statute.

    Generally, an offense under this statute is a felony of the second degree, punishable by
    two to twenty years in prison and a fine of up to $10,000.00. If, however, the child victim
    is under the age of 14, the offense is enhanced to a felony of the first degree, punishable
    by imprisonment for life or for a term of not more than 99 years or less than five years,
    and a fine not to exceed $50,000.00.

    FROM: (University of Texas at Austin - Office of the Dean of Students - Legal Services for Students)
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    Re: Elmo the Pedophile

    Section 21.12

    …(3) engages in conduct described by Section 33.021, with a person described by Subdivision (1), or a person the employee knows is a person described by Subdivision (2)(A) or (B), regardless of the age of that person

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    Re: Elmo the Pedophile

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight View Post
    Section 21.12

    …(3) engages in conduct described by Section 33.021, with a person described by Subdivision (1), or a person the employee knows is a person described by Subdivision (2)(A) or (B), regardless of the age of that person
    Every state has those provisions as it is improper and unethical for an educator to have a sexual relationship with a student. The reasons for this are quite obvious. This is not anything unusual or rare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Every state has those provisions …
    Umm. It is indeed unusual for it to be a criminal statute, (EDIT: specifically) the ‘age does not matter’ part, and it is a fairly recent development even here. Enacted less than 10 years ago.

    Further it need not be a teacher, or have any contact at all with the student, or ever set foot in the school that the student attends for that matter. EDIT: And the student need not know of the employee’s position.
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    Re: Elmo the Pedophile

    Perhaps the libellous title needs changing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight View Post
    Umm. It is indeed unusual for it to be a criminal statute, (EDIT: specifically) the ‘age does not matter’ part, and it is a fairly recent development even here. Enacted less than 10 years ago.

    Further it need not be a teacher, or have any contact at all with the student, or ever set foot in the school that the student attends for that matter. EDIT: And the student need not know of the employee’s position.
    That is not what it says in the link. Why do you feel that a teacher having sex with a student is okay?

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    24 states have a statute against student/teacher sex of any kind. Okay, so maybe not every state has that particular ban, but as 24 states have these laws, I wouldn't say they are unusual or rare.

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    Re: Elmo the Pedophile

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight View Post
    21 year-old and a 19 year-old have consensual sex, 21 year-old goes to jail for 5 years.

    You see no issue with that?
    1) What are the chances of someone actually being convicted in those circumstances?

    2) I believe special rules should be put into place when concerning teachers and their students. So some possible exception that goes against the spirit of the law really doesn't change that

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    24 states have a statute against student/teacher sex of any kind. Okay, so maybe not every state has that particular ban, but as 24 states have these laws, I wouldn't say they are unusual or rare.
    Adult <-> adult? What is that list? Unique no. Unusual, yes. And thankfully getting rarer.

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    Re: Elmo the Pedophile

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight View Post
    Adult <-> adult? What is that list? Unique no. Unusual, yes. And thankfully getting rarer.
    Why do you want teachers to be able to have sex with students anyway?

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