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    Re: Obamacare vs. Jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    I don't feel much compulsion to respond because your assertions have no evidence (or explanations) and I'm not curious about them.
    That is because you have not been spoon fed a response. Money wins. Money always wins over the next great political idea because it isn't a great idea until money lets it be such. Companies get to shed workers and blame Obama; companies get to cut benefits and blame Obama. It is the perfect plan. Enjoy the show.

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    Re: Obamacare vs. Jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    You sound like Lenin
    Pretty sure he took a stronger view of such things.

    My view in the matter is pretty straightforward. The global economic system is powered by American diplomatic and military strength and was created strongly in the advantage of 10% of the American public -- it vastly decreases the competitiveness of the domestic jobs market by forcing lower wages and fewer positions, which of course has the effect of pushing the middle class into poverty and extreme private debt. The cheaper costs of goods that was supposed to aid the middle class never materialized because huge populations like those in China also want to develop middle class living standards for their populations, which pushes up the cost of goods. Predictably, all of these trends are extremely favorable for the 10%.

    My belief can be summed up as, "the 10% can't prop up this global economic system by themselves, so as long as it exists society can do whatever it wants with their assets to offset the strain the system puts on the living standards of the larger population."

    As far as this relates to health care:

    That is because you have not been spoon fed a response. Money wins. Money always wins over the next great political idea because it isn't a great idea until money lets it be such. Companies get to shed workers and blame Obama; companies get to cut benefits and blame Obama. It is the perfect plan. Enjoy the show.
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    Re: Obamacare vs. Jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    About the only lesson I take from this is that labor laws need reformed and that Obamacare needs to be amended to tax John H. Schnatter the full value of a castle and a golf course to help finance the legislation. The more corporations push back, the further they have to be pushed.
    So you believe the owner should be punished by government?

    You believe the money to build a castle and a golf course, to maintain both, is better in the hands of the government rather than create jobs? You believe the government, which has done ZERO to earn this money should simply take it run it through the government meat grinder, turn a buck into 25 cents and spread it around as THEY see fit?

    That is the problem with Parasite Nation... and their Parasite leader. REVENGE, and the #1 Parasite even used the word. They do not care about results, they care about a perverted notion of fairness that can never exist and only harms the people they claim they would like to help... turning them into Parasites.

    It's sick... but that's Parasite Nation's ideology...

    Here is where Parasite Nation's leader reveals his true self, his true goals and his perverted view on "Fairness":
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    Re: Obamacare vs. Jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    Layoffs are making a rise as well.

    Calls to boycott Applebee's after CEO threatens hiring freeze and layoffs over Obamacare

    "Move over Chick-fil-A, fast food is getting political again.

    Papa John's came under fire this week when CEO John Schnatter floated a plan to cut worker hours to reduce spiking employee health care costs under the Affordable Care Act, otherwise known as Obamacare.

    Now, Applebee's is being boycotted after a major New York area Applebee's franchise owner Zane Tankel threatened a hiring freeze and possible layoffs as a result of the president's healthcare plan."
    I'm thinking they probably have an exemption request pending. That's the only reason I can think of as to why these fast-food operations would be telegraphing their intent.
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    Re: Obamacare vs. Jobs

    No government doesn't take it and run it through the meat grinder it. It hands it out to the 47% so they can insure re election and continue in their routine golf outings and big arse parties.


    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    So you believe the owner should be punished by government?

    You believe the money to build a castle and a golf course, to maintain both, is better in the hands of the government rather than create jobs? You believe the government, which has done ZERO to earn this money should simply take it run it through the government meat grinder, turn a buck into 25 cents and spread it around as THEY see fit?

    That is the problem with Parasite Nation... and their Parasite leader. REVENGE, and the #1 Parasite even used the word. They do not care about results, they care about a perverted notion of fairness that can never exist and only harms the people they claim they would like to help... turning them into Parasites.

    It's sick... but that's Parasite Nation's ideology...

    Here is where Parasite Nation's leader reveals his true self, his true goals and his perverted view on "Fairness":

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    Re: Obamacare vs. Jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    So you believe the owner should be punished by government?

    You believe the money to build a castle and a golf course, to maintain both, is better in the hands of the government rather than create jobs? You believe the government, which has done ZERO to earn this money should simply take it run it through the government meat grinder, turn a buck into 25 cents and spread it around as THEY see fit?

    That is the problem with Parasite Nation... and their Parasite leader. REVENGE, and the #1 Parasite even used the word. They do not care about results, they care about a perverted notion of fairness that can never exist and only harms the people they claim they would like to help... turning them into Parasites.

    It's sick... but that's Parasite Nation's ideology...

    Here is where Parasite Nation's leader reveals his true self, his true goals and his perverted view on "Fairness":
    I think that the wealth it takes to build and maintain a castle and a golf course would be better spent on paying off home financing loans among his employees. Since I can't have that, taxing John sounds like the next best thing.
    Last edited by Morality Games; 11-12-12 at 03:42 PM.
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    Re: Obamacare vs. Jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    I think that the wealth it takes to build and maintain a castle and a golf course would be better spent on paying off home financing loans among his employees. Since I can't have that, taxing John sounds like the next best thing.
    Parasite Nation strikes again.

    What about those who would be needed to build the castle, to repair the castle, to staff the castle, service the castle and its toys, and the same goes for the golf course. You don't like those jobs because they serve someone of wealth? Someone who could become wealthier and create more... jobs.
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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